>> The,
>> 2.
>> We are going to reconvene are meeting of the Board of
County commissioners from November 14th, I'm we're
heading into our public hearing quasi judicial items and
legislative items for this afternoon. The first item on
our agenda is to accept proofs of publication is there a
motion to second. Mission motion by commissioner dallari
second by commissioner zembower on the discussion all those in
favor say aye aye any opposed motion passes unanimously.
The we have to cause a judicial I hearing items on our agenda
this afternoon, I'm going to go through and read our rules for
public hearing and then I know the first one we have a request
to continue and will take that up first
the way that we're going to operate this afternoon is that
our staff will present each item that's up for
consideration with the staff recommendation and the board
will have an opportunity to ask questions of staff when
presentations have finished the applicant will then have an
opportunity to make a presentation and the board will
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wants their presentation is complete members of the public
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commissioners has an opportunity to read your
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While the board welcomes comments from persons with an
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There must be a factual basis in the record to support
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proceeding in the official minutes has any commissioner
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cause additional items if so please disclose the substance
and the identify the person making the communication.
Yes, I have and I've submitted electronically and I can pass
it over to the clerk and paper.
>> Which I also have some meetings on this matter to the
clerk as well when Medicare mind have open meetings
on item number 34 all been submitted electronically.
As turned in mind electronically and they've been
on both 34 and
5 of the lead.
I was only 34 sorry.
>> And my ex parte was also on on item 34 and those are
submitted electronically and pass down and I asked.
The first item that is up is tri-state towing which is a PD
rezoning and I believe in East l a
item and this is the item that is being requested for a
continuance that cracked. Yes, ma'am.
>> Comes my name is Denise away for the record development
services, the applicant for tri-state towing PD rezoning
asked for a continuance to the December 12 the Board of County
commissioners meeting the applicant has requested the
continuing it's time to meet with the owner of the Oviedo
commerce enter which is directly north of the subjects
site so staff recommends Board of County commissioners
continue the tri-state towing PD rezoning to the December 12
BCC meeting that concludes all right.
Any questions on the
are there any members of the public who wish to speak know
right,
no no one here has a farm field outright 34 for the continuance
right that this was double check and has been caught
before.
Commissioners is there a motion for a continuance.
>> And chair I'd like to make a motion to continue. This item
to its 7.12 meeting have to as requested by the applicant
second.
>> There's a motion by commissioner dallari a second
by commissioner zembower
any discussion
all those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion passes
unanimously, thank you thank you so much.
Item number 35 is a board of adjustment appeal that's going
to be presented by and she games.
Good afternoon into Gates plan with development services item
number 35 is a request to appeal the Board of adjustment
decision to deny the request for one a side yard West
setback variance from 10 feet to 2 and a half feet and to a
rear yard setback variance from 30 feet to 3 feet for shed in
the R one a single family dwelling district and more
particularly known as one 49 Academy Oaks place
on 5/24/2023 to Seminole County building department issued a
notice a code violation violation 23 dash one o 5 for
the installation of a 240 split 240 square foot shed without
the required permits.
After speaking to staff in the planning and development office
Mister John was informed that the necessity for 2 variances
would be required and on 5/31/2023 the variance
application was submitted on 8/28/2023 the request was hurt
by the Board of adjustment and tonight.
This is John filed a notice to appeal on September 11th 2
2023, which brings us before you
based on the information findings and conclusions
included and referenced in the agenda memorandum prepared in
association with the original action taken by the Board of
adjustment at its meeting on 8/28/2023. And the testimony
presented at the aforementioned meeting staff recommends the
Board of County commissioners
uphold the decision of the Board of adjustment to deny the
request.
This concludes my presentation and staff is available for each
seat.
>> Any questions of this case is now is the appellant here do
they wish to make presentations
I'm sorry through the
click through if you wanted to talk to them.
This is where is the applicant get all right come on forward
if you would and
present your case here.
>> 6 minutes, correct know you this is your appeal, okay you
want to keep it brief because you might lose our attention.
I trust them in theater I completely understand that he
will keep us energy. To the Board of commissioners.
I come before you see team that your Commission for a variance
for an existing shed on my property
starts a born out of necessity of Hurricane ravaged. Our
previous said several years ago in good faith I proceed with
replacing it. I know where meeting requirements as it was
a replacement.
And our community is not governed by and each day.
My neighbor located at one 55 kind of meals please miss
Elizabeth and Roy who initially reported and raise concerns
primarily about the roof overhang has since acknowledged
our efforts and address seen in rectifying this issue amicably
stating that she has no issue with the shed. She was mostly
concerned about the overhang and that issue again has been
addressed fully addressed
that conversation with my neighbor has healed our 90
relationship.
The decision to expand and improve the shed was driven by
a genuine need for a more resilient structure.
Given that has hurricane damage. This expansion was not
an attempt to float
regulations but a conscious effort to enhance the
properties resilience. I genuinely believe I was acting
in accordance with the situation at hand
knowledge and oversight, I know I am seeking the necessary
variance and permits fully committed to complying with all
regulations moving forward, I must note that financial strain
incurred by my family. In addressing this issue has been
significant
and it has completely under the lending process in my
department at the university as the shed has been designed to
store fronts and major set pieces
as we are immensely wish to bring this matter to a close.
The intention is not to skirt the rules but to rectify the
situation properly allowing this to complete the ship
project and return to a sense of normalcy and our allies use
him sincerely committed to rectify the situation
and appreciate consideration in bringing this matter to a fair
and just resolution think you port of commissioners.
Are there any questions for the applicant at this time.
Commissioner zembower
thank you
madam chair appreciate being here today question.
>> That's something the shed that you indicated, this was a
replacement for the previous shed was their permit for the
previous shed of the original show.
>> No. It was that was the basic structure that had just
been there. We got there we put just some things to keep basic
stuff and and that was that was damaged, I can't remember we
moved in 2014 we move into 2014.
I don't remember even when we bought the structure, the quite
honest. But it's been my research even then it said at
the time it was well under curfew that was just structure
and said the company was necessary so that number sign
up for that. OK, thank you, Sir, commissioner, and
commissioner dallari yes ma'am
I served the size of the shed before.
Well, it was more just billings of
I don't I don't know the exact size it was just something you
bought from from the lows and so it was not even.
I guess my here and it's just really wide it was mainly just
like with opened up, I was taught about pictures that just
opened the front. I don't know that's also kind of a.
>> Plastic why the riding like the trash can been sort of the
main that lie together but Senate sets not a shed right,
I consider it said that the storage them okay, and the size
it was purchased as should write. Yes, wow, okay, the size
of the
is it indicates here that it expanded to be larger so it's
now more than 200 square feet correct payment as pictured
there.
Yes, ma'am
thank you ma'am.
>> They come and share your photos of the old shed that we
can actually see what I did not bring it, I know I don't think
anything like that.
So you have no documentation wish you the show you what he
just in conditions were
anyway so that we can see it's replacement.
>> No I could probably find something if necessary
kind of thinking.
Any other questions map.
All right if we have any other questions will call you back up
your right, thank you very much
are there any members of the public here he was just.
Yes, we have to first is Mitchell Kraus and then Travis
Roy.
Mister Kraus if you would
your address this protected so we we know where you live.
>> My name is Michelle counselor that with my wife at
one 37 Academy Oaks place in Altamonte Springs, Florida,
3, 2, 7, 1, 4, I am the homeowner that.
If you look at the home I would be 2 houses over.
I'm I'm here. I don't know if it's in SUP reporter for the
the the board did or against a I don't know on
would like the court that the board to issue the variance
the structure that we're looking at is not detrimental
to the homeowners in the area.
Nice structure. There are other. I think homeowners I
have some of our structures like this. I see it when I
pulled up in the drive.
My Street faces the street when you drive out faces the front
of his house and so you saw to the side and so you see it,
it's not a nuisance it's not to any problems looking at is a
fine structure.
I'd ask you to consider overturning the Board of what I
will tell you the concert as I got a notice for the original
Board of adjustment meeting and they got moved and I never got
another notice that they had moved it and so I didn't go to
that hearing go because I never got the letter.
I got the first letter telling me was one day and then they
get moved and how to go on.
So I think was on the 14th originally and then later I
found out it got moved to the 28th and I never got a letter
in the mail indicating that it got moved, but I will tell them
what I wasn't there because I think you notice, I tend to be
there on the 14th and that was told was movement never told
what it moved to. The homeowners Association
to correct the
the applicant actually was a home ownership all ears
created, but it doesn't do anything it is nonexistence
so it's kind of a weird thing they're all rules and
regulations but there's nobody to enforce it, there's no
actual homeowners Association. So I ask you to consider
approving the variance thank you.
Thank you. Mister cross any questions commissioner dallari
thank you madam chair.
So if you live in the neighborhood, you said 2 doors
down was there should be a prior
to your knowledge.
The Fed to.
You know, so I would term a shed. Yes that was a shot there
was it a storage bin goes to the shed
to find storage bin by should.
It was is a lot it was a good one. I'm not recollection was a
storage bin is a food box is low to the wound.
This was this was all
and and again my recollection of was like. Plus the thing,
but it was up over ball can call you or what you call a
storage bin like in motion going to see it you know,
it's it's maybe thank you. Mister up by 3 feet this was
bigger than that and it was 10 or so I was seeing was a shut.
Thank you for that clarification
thank you Mister Kraus have seen
the Travis Roy Mister Roy.
>> State your name and address you have 3 minutes. My name is
Travis Rory addresses 1, 5, 5, Academy of space out one of
spring's 3, 2, 7, 1, 4,
Looking at that House right to the right. So I look into it,
be happy to have some some photos as well.
Well, I know, I'm good I see it all the time even pitchers.
I just want to start off say rules are rules and not knowing
who starts his for rules. Okay, first also highlight that
my wife, my legal rights for illegal owner of that place is
not does not approve of this what he said is that they may
have agreed on a few things where she is not approved this
she is not written a letter an agreement.
I'm here representing her as her, you know has been so I I
don't know where that came from second of all.
This all started if you look at the photos the it slows into my
yard. The event was right on the fence line so when it rains
all the water flowed into my backyard, so I guess when the
permitting people came out and I guess showing now
they cut off said you can see picture there of their own
license contractor, cutting the eve off.
And snow slide. I guess they thought that was going to
rectify you also see a picture of me, you know a photo of how
close it is to my fence.
I lived there before they did I was friends with the person
lived there before.
There is no concrete structure backs are to hold a shed then
whatever we want to testify this is I see it there was no
structure that I can see here.
6 years ago I got a new fence it was taken down I could see
in the backyard, there may be one of those bands that goes
about this hard to hear that you put some sports equipment
and but there's no shed back there on that structure,
there's an umbrella that I could see and some shares in
some patio stones.
Then all of a sudden this structure which is not a shed
and in legal terms it's a structure is now one popped up
with no warning he resigned from the board of adjustments
that he had some friends do it that were not licensed. So the
way it's structured right now. I don't know if it's hurricane
safe, the waves lean mean the way the roof line is that's
going to be my backyard. If we have a major storm.
I can also say he said the word just mean that is shed have
been you know torn up by Hurricane Laura every
Hurricanes have lost 5, 7, years. We've all asked all
y'all have don't call yourself on the front.
There is no shout out there there's no structure that have
been demolished by Hurricane right with the scene.
So this is a new structure that's been put out by a
licensed contractor, that's an eyesore you notice that no one
here that's actually sees it is here in been you know the green
that so I you know I don't know what else can be said of it in
your Board of adjustment agrees that it's all right to have
that in your backyard.
Any questions for Mister right.
Have a seat and then if anyone has any questions. We'll call
you back up thanks for talking absolutely.
For we co.
>> And back to the applicant for any rebuttal that he may
have I just want to make sure.
There were clear whether this structure is there or not what
was there before or not there was no permit and there is no
variance requested for it to be this close to the property line
correct so what we're here for today is the approach is an
appeal of the setback, yes, so as much as the structure versus
shed versus been great discussion is very.
We can do that or not that's not that's not that's why Henry
and got over it and I just wanted to make sure you're on
the same page. Would you please come if you have anything you'd
like you don't have to come up again, but you are certainly
welcome to rebut anything that was said it's just not an
opportunity for new presentation.
>> I appreciate that I didn't realize I was. This is Sarah
Lee in the court of law.
>> But this is fi Sir this is this is like was I to do so
hearing which yes, it is judicial which is law.
>> Okay, so so being that I'm in the court of law of its kind
I do respect that I'm just really confused.
Why I've been looked at people are looking over my fence,
I mean my fence has been up since that they haven't been
practically so I don't know how anyone could have people by
fans to see what structures I have in my yard I find that to
be quite offensive, quite honestly into question my
integrity I find that to be even more offensive and I just
want to throw that out there as far as the people who helped me
build my said the last time I checked I haven't ev-d as well
as the FAA and the people that came to help me we're all.
They may not get a license contractor, but we obviously
know what we're doing in building sets for 30 plus
years. The safety of the home everything's been hurricane
proof one way to tell you this because one Scott. It's
approved don't people come out and check all of the safety and
those kinds of things that's why. I so sought after the
permit and I explain myself in the letter as I didn't know
what I can so I can don't need to continue to apologize for
something I didn't know I make that very clear. Thank you Amy,
thank you for commissioners say anything while I'm standing
here.
>> There may be something that will come up later, but right
now I think we're I think we're okay okay, thank you so much
thank you know, appreciate you.
I'm sure there will be questions. Yeah, I don't
anything commissioner Constantine and this is your
district and then commissioner, zembower well thank you I get
and you which please come up please.
>> OK, I read a read the report listen to vote everybody read
the report of and the minutes of the flight of the
Board of zoning appeals.
Tell me what the staff is Poe or much to uphold or is in
support of upholding the denial.
>> Because the variants criteria was not that.
She wants a through that.
Yes, why not.
I mean the 6 parks 6 parts yes. More so with the application
created their own hardships.
Why not receiving
a building permit or seeking variance prior to putting up
the shed.
And they could have made it smaller.
So to answer your question. Commissioner Constantine
commissioner zembower we want to make sure I'm clear.
>> Was set up here the only thing we're here about is a
variance got that.
But in addition to that.
It's my understanding
notwithstanding the variance there was never a permit holder
built the structure period.
Regardless it was in the right place or not correct so there's
actually 2 issues here.
Underline with the building permit.
>> Yes, they don't meet the setbacks okay.
Thank you you're welcome.
Since I have a couple questions
based on personal experience having
directed a shed type structure that houses chickens. It's not
have been it's
you know what it is it's a chicken coop that's a check
into that kind of looks like a shed I don't know because I had
to be cute.
>> That's the first thing we did was we had to look at what
the setbacks were because we knew we couldn't put chickens
right up next or shatter whatever right up next to our
neighbor's property line like that like that was we knew that
was something we could and is the first thing we did was we
asked for the for of to see what that setback was and if we
would need to request a variance
and then you know did the process for whatever building
permit was required and I think we actually designed it
specifically said that we wouldn't need a building permit
we made a small enough so that we wouldn't have to go through
that process.
I'm in a unique situation and that I eat sleep and breathe,
this stuff, right
and so was ignorance of the law is not an excuse. I I do think
we're trying to
to do 2 things I think we're trying to
make sure that the neighbors have a structure that is set
back far enough from their property line that is
reasonable
in compliance, hopefully with what the facts are which are
what in this neighborhood and this owning the setback would
be what how many feet on the sides that would be 10 and the
rear would for this I structure would be 30 okay. So the 10
foot side and a rear 30 and right now it is
2, 1, to 2 and a half and 3 to 2 and a half and grace.
So
if the if the structure work to be moved to be 30 feet and 10
feet and it would be
probably not in a place where they would want it in their
backyard. I recognize that I'm not sure when fed but if,
but if they were to request a variance that would move it
from 2 and a half and 3 which would be.
Marks up double in my mind that would the and the way that the
structure is built now would it have to be completely
deconstructed and reconstructed or could come in. I could not
answer that question. You haven't seen it I I can only
seen in pictures, but I don't know by code how you would have
to take things down or put them off.
I don't know if it could be taken apart without being
destroyed, I'm sure there's a way I just I can't answer that
okay.
When the best applicants if you don't mind coming back up.
Commissioner Constantine I know this is your district so I will
give you deference that I just want to make sure I understand
what the process is here. It's let me ask that has to
start.
So is the building the way it's structured now able to be
rolled to another place is or isn't fixed on to platform
Taishan it is fixed to the foundation.
I like the concrete ID and yes because we were.
>> Or keeping the mind of a hurricane you know, it's been
fixed, according to a hurricane rules stuffed with that we did
read.
>> Okay, so if this board works too. We give you ate it.
The variance different than what you're requesting and just
to have you move it in further.
What is that something that you would.
>> Yeah, I can answer that for you so that would be so that
the House is like here and currently the Fed where it is
as close to the fence is you know here for a move that would
be right up on the House and that's why didn't you know.
I was just looking obviously at the stats as well.
>> I think what you may be heading toward is though an
option of having to take it down in time early or or maybe
be flexible and I'm not sure we're headed but I just wanted
to see if it was miserable.
Okay, thank you MS.
Any other questions comments.
Commissioner Constantine you could if you have a safe place.
Yes. Thank you.
Well, I I think that we.
>> We need to see these things come up because we know that
somebody is going to leave here, you know unsatisfied
but at the end.
But the fact of the matter is is that
zoning appeals look at this.
It's not often
that they feel that the problem is and the sitch situation is
so egregious that day deny it. In this case they did feel that
the 2 and a half from 10 feet and the 3 feet from 30.
You know, I also commissioner, I'm Mike Hart were thinking
maybe we could move it and do something find a you know
split the difference. But in this case you can and you can
also see that you know the overhangs right into the other
yard above the fence. It
frankly, again there there is
I I wish there was some way that we could you know find a
solution for all. But in this case I think that the only
decision that can be made is that we uphold the Board of
adjustments decision to deny the request
and I could read the whole thing but that pretty much
takes to that's my motion second.
>> There's a motion and a second I neglected to close
public. Comments there any other members of the public who
wish to speak not you Mister Julius, I'm sorry.
Close the public comments were under discussion.
>> I concur, and I understand what the chair Lady stopped
cross and the district commissioner.
The reality is this is I don't care freezes quite frankly,
the ship.
The support of a permanent structure. You could call that
a I guess a detached shed garage, whatever but
it's obvious this poured concrete is obvious, it's got
some structural integrity to it
probably does make hurricane code from the looks of it and
it's very unfortunate. But at the end of the day.
We have 2 entities for comes to us which is the Board of
adjustment as well as our own staff that says you know this
is not like of what we can move it 5 fever or 4. Some kind of
nuance saying and it's very unfortunate because as I look
at the site plan
of this home.
There's a whole lot of room that you actually put a shed,
you could looks like you could probably meet the setbacks but
it's going to be right in the middle off the corner was how
some off to what appears to be a a deck area text or that.
But
unfortunately, that's that's why we do have guidelines and
regulations to follow and I would agree if we could Ben
them somewhat
a little bit to to get there, but I think this one's too far
too deep to get there.
That's why I'm voting.
In favor of them.
Commissioners.
>> So there's a motion a second any other discussion.
All those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion passes
unanimously.
This case would you be willing to work with Mister Julius and
see if he were to start this process and applying for a
variance
and see what his options maybe yes, after of course all right
thank you. Thank you you can can I just clarify that yes.
>> That's applying for a variance that's not the same
exact thing that came before us today to be clear about moving
it away from those laws, I'm going to have to be taken down.
>> And then if they would need a structure in the backyard and
they need to start over acknowledging that 10 feet in
30 doesn't work for their property. They're going to have
to come in and start that variance process
because maybe maybe they do want to shed, but they can do
it 10 feet and 10 feet maybe that's something they would
like to apply for maybe they want to know that we would need
a variance well right, but it would it's under 200 and it's
under 200 square feet. They don't need a variance of all
but maybe they don't want it to be 30 feet setback, maybe they
one of the 10 foot setback that would require a variance so I'm
just saying I don't know what your ultimate goals are but I
think there's something else that perhaps you could be
work with our staff to come up with whatever round 2 might be.
>> And my purpose that clarifying was it so you don't
do this all over again going down the path to think that
it's going to end up where it is
all right. Thank you. Mister Gates.
>> All right our next item is a legislative public hearing item
number 36,
which is the adoption of the rice Lake msbu and this is
going to be presented by to make Martin.
>> Good afternoon to Micah Martin financial manager msp
program.
So item 36 offers were consideration to adoption
ordinance creating municipal services benefit unit
assessment district to provide funding for Lake management
services on behalf of rice Lake which is locating and
commission district 5
the request for establishing the seven-speed you was
initiated by the community application. The standard
petition process that was conducted by or department got
a 74.2% in favor of BCC creating the this must be U
that exceeded the 65% threshold the assessment boundary of the
proposed msbu consist of 31 waterfront homes. Each of them
will get 1, 1, benefit unit, they'll be assigned a benefit
in all the properties are located within unincorporated
Seminole County
and this msbu consists of 2 phases phase, one which is the
capital phase and phase 2 which is the variable face phase,
one refers to the initial restoration services and phase
2 were first to ongoing Lake management services, the
estimated cost of phase, one is 104,200 the payment source for
this would be a $20,000
contributions from the general fund this will come from the
public works department budget
and funded fans of approximately $84,200 will be
coming from the msbu program project crimes based on this
information we've estimated that the annual assessment for
phase, one, we'll be about $787.5 for the next 5 years for
each home.
The estimated annual cost for face to we're looking at
$432.50 per parcel this is based on a projection of 5 year
projection that we've made for contracted services
and phase one estimated assessment. It is a fixed
assessment based on the actual cost com that will be presented
in the future and an upcoming board after those services have
been completed while phase 2 is a variable rate assessment.
It is subject to change annually, according to the site
conditions and the budget expenses both estimates that I
listed before
our inclusive of interest in msp you admin fines and fees,
I'm sorry and will be levied annually by the tax bill.
So following public input the actual question is for the
board to approve and for the chairman to go ahead and
execute the ordinance creating this msp for Rice Lake.
This concludes my introduction of this item, thank you.
Questions for miss Horton.
>> Rice Lake is it a 100% private access like yes,
thank you.
You know if we dump our storm water into it. I said oh yeah,
haha
we have the questions now as you heard this in your district
I believe
were there any members of the public here who wish to speak.
Yes, we have one Mister Gomes okay Mister Thomas if you read
and state your name and address for the record and you'll have
3 minutes.
>> Good afternoon to the board minutes but his comments I live
at 28 wins out drive as with my family and the rest of the lake
neighbors.
I just want to set off a thank you. Mister Michael Mister make
miss Michelle Mister Thomas was a Tony. This has been a pretty
long process but that may be as easy as possible.
It's just been a phenomenal journey to get to where we're
going we bought the House about 6 years ago and my grandparents
of the lake before that.
It's one of those lakes that is a small Lake no one really
knows. We are lived across the street for a whole lot even
though it was there until we moved in with my grandparents
and obviously, but
that
where families and a lot of
well time's not a little late, but
that was covered in weeds very neglected and then we tried
multiple different companies assuming the late doctor czar.
We've had late command as well. There's some local companies
and the projects in the budget and they just continuously
temper, easing prices and taking advantage of us.
And they knew that we had no other option so they kept going
up on it and I finally came to the excess a tease us with that
I I as a person cannot afford to the neighbors.
So I took it upon myself and us with a couple of days on set
and I serve the process.
And we're here today to hope that this goes through
everybody on the lake that we got that we spoke to has
approved a few was only 6 others that we didn't get their
vacation homes. They are they're very often we try to
get a hold of them. But everybody that has been good
sign we we have a group chat of 20 people everybody's been the
point man is excited to get the final result of what's going to
happen today but I don't mean its hooking mortality the board
but I hope this goes well and I appreciate you guys for your
time, thank you for services, thank you Mister Thomas.
>> Any other members of the public speaking of close public
hearing commissioner.
Well, sure if you have something to say you probably
need to grab this yellow form before you leave and fill it
out for us that you can come on up now and just make sure you
fill out for you though.
>> State your name and address for the record that afternoon.
My name is George Kelsey and my wife Carroll County. An idea
today with over 23 still engage North. In the Ravens Brook
subdivision
we lived there for 30 years.
We've seen quite a bit of growth. The homes on the late
and over the years we've spent quite a bit of money on
maintaining the leaflet that was the whole league portions
of the lake depending upon who was there at what time we did
everything we could and I would estimate
I've spent personally
and those 30 years and so it's just least 25 to $30,000.
It's been frustrating as some of the new structures have come
in especially those mansions on the model was roadside that are
worth I'm sure today anywhere from 7 to 10 million dollars.
The difficulty they've had even getting them taken just before
$500 a year yet they seem to enjoy the heck out of the
Lakers. They have all kinds of the quitman right on the lake.
So what it comes down to what we learned that this program
was available.
As taxpayers.
We believe that this would be good for us.
It's fair and at the same time would involve everyone who
lives on the way rather than this kind of selective herky
jerky kind of I got to the Shia but next year you were in here,
I'm not paying this year last year. It's really unfair to
those who do pay. And on the other hand.
It's something that helps the county because it gives those
of us who live there.
The opportunity to not just enjoy the lake. But of course
increases the value of all homes as the value always goes
up well so does our assessment assessment goes up the pay
grade of taxes and as you can see by the proposal ruling to
pay quite a bit of money the kick it off. And also pay a
fair amount of money year-by-year in order to
maintain. So we hope you agree with those, but we think it's
not only fair, but something that ultimately benefits both
the county and those residents that live on the Lynn thank
you. Thank you so much.
>> I'm so glad we want to grab this yellow form right here if
you want and just get just make sure you hand that back before
you leave, thank you.
I'll say are we have dear friends, Jennifer and Eric
Duncan who live in Ravens broken live on Rice Lake kept
and that with-with spent some time on Rice Lake and it is
beautiful. It has been very weedy and your story is very
similar to the ones that we've heard from lakes all across
this County and I will also give kudos to Mister Callahan
and his team they do an excellent job and
we we do have a great.
Asset in this Lake management program and the opportunity to
use the msbu funding mechanism is is
being taken advantage of by lots of lakefront property
owners and we're thrilled about that so.
>> Chairman I never really thought I get to say this but
in an effort to eliminate herky jerky
>> make the following motion and then I have a couple of
thank You's that we adopted ordinance creating the rice
Lake Lake management municipal services benefit unit.
The preliminary capital assessment roll for phase,
one msbu services in the initial variable-rate
assessment roll for phase, 2 msp services second.
>> The motion by commissioner her second by commissioner tied
it up down there zembower any further discussion.
>> I just want to give a shout out to the neighbors that dug
in and did this our team is wonderful, but it takes 2
partners to make these happen and we very much appreciate us
citizens stepping forward, and I love the concept that it's
going to be shared more equally in terms of the burden because
the benefit certainly shared equally so it is a great thing
when this happens we appreciate you.
Congratulations
any other discussion.
>> All those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion passes
unanimously.
Congratulations,
another image of you to join the lake.
We all benefit from clean water to it too. Our next item is
item number 37 and that is a sunrail transition update from.
Deputy County attorney Paul took off.
>> Thank you, madam chair for the record Paul chip act if the
county attorney
in regards to somewhere on my way back around the local
government partners are now coordinating with fdot and
links to craft an operations phasing agreement in which the
financial transition from fdot to the central Florida.
The central that the CFC R C Whitaker first and then the
operations transition would occur incrementally over the
following 3 years the transition to the CFC RC and
the operating entity. That eventually runs of sunrail
would be links.
>> Mister chair Poppe yeah sorry go much further, I know
you've created a power point do you want the slide showing
while you're speaking.
>> Not necessarily the power point was the power point is
what will be presented at the C F C R C.
Meeting on.
>> Thursday, I think it's mainly back with you for your I
was panicking free because your side never mind. I'm sorry for
interrupting you.
>> At the November 16th CFC artsy meeting fdot is requested
formal direction from the sea of CRC board regarding
endorsement by that board of the concept to pursue the
operations phasing agreement for the transition of sunrail
from fdot to the CFC RC the staffs at fdot and
the local government partners have been working jointly over
several months on this project are ready but we've had no
formal approvals from the CFC or see it
and dot hasn't made a formal commitment either so fdot wants
to make the arrangement more formal so that all the work
effort is is legitimate and was forward with its shares
threshold issues.
County staff understanding of the prior Board of County
commissioners directions that Seminole County supports the
development of the operations phasing agreement
and along with that there is acknowledgement that the
systems operating deficit under the current operating documents
is the ultimate responsibility of the local government
partners and if not paid by the local government partners will
come out of the the OT district 5 work program that is
allocated to other projects in the
district 5.
Also the current operational governance documents must be
amended prior to entering into the operation phasing agreement
to address the system operating deficit responsibility. The
documents will be revised to remove the axe the annual
maximum the deficit operating deficits and the 5 year work
program that already exists anticipates the annual court
cost prospectively so to have a listing of the annual deficit
in the document for budgeting purposes is not necessary that
information is asked to exist elsewhere.
Sunrail consultant wsp needs to finish the transition
consulting work for a transition plan report
for wsp to do this direction from the local government
partners is needed to acknowledge that negotiations
with Boeing says the operating committee still needs to occur.
These negotiations with wings will result in the operating
agreement that operating agreement must still be
approved by each of the local government partners it will
come back before you individually and each of the
local government partners and then also to the CFC are
Seaboard prior to links being installed as the operating
entity. And again if it turns cannot be reached and we need
to look for other alternatives, but we need to commence work on
that agreement with links at this point in time to know
how an operating agreement would working to find out what
we don't know today.
The next item is the work continues on the with the local
government partner steering committee and fdot jury Z to
resolve the key negotiating point these are the same
negotiating points that you've been priest on for several
years and the report on the negotiating point status is
provided in your backup material.
And then finally on a separate but related item.
Fdot is holding a series of public meetings to discuss the
transit concept and alternative review T car for the sunshine
court-ordered sunshine corridor is the east-west connection
from the airport too South. I drive so they are having a
series of public meetings to discuss alternatives of how
that route could potentially look so that's still very early
in the planning process, but they are moving forward public
meetings and I've distributed a schedule of those meetings to
you independently so if any of you are interested in that
and with that. Again that's our understanding of the prior
board action to us and if there are any questions from the
commissioners.
>> Yes commissioner dallari thank you madam chair and have
these conversations with
County
staff as well as can imagine County attorney
as well as what the statement something to make I've had some
real board meeting as well.
And if you disagree with Paul and given the ability to
country ability to contradict me. There is something that
needs to be contradicted.
I mentioned many times
that the original contract was for a total of 8 million
dollars. From all 5 funding partners and now it's up to
45 Million.
I'd like to understand
how that
dollar fee has grown,
I've asked for transparency for it and details and have asked
many times.
A few times at the board meeting of sunrail and I think
that needs to be addressed.
During this transition ago. She ation is that correct Paul
that mentioned that several times
that is correct and not that of Allied request and I've seen no
information at this time.
The other thing is that in the discussions at that meeting
we've discussed
burning or operational time of the last section of the sunrail
corridor which is up in Deland and I really believe this
agreement
should be a gated so one year after the completion
of did land a portion
and we should be sometime in May of 2025, but I think that's
also important.
We've always talked about that.
Completion time it actually able to run it and to be fair
to the system I think one year after the completion of the
blackest or construction presently
that we need to make sure that it's and coexistence of the
one-year time after completion of that.
When it comes to links, understand we need to negotiate
in one of the reasons why is because
Lucia County is right now not a part of
lakes and I mean to make sure that that is somehow
appropriately addressed so that the administrative cost.
It is addressed with.
Lucia so when that pain that portion of the admin cost
and then when it comes to the sunshine corridor from the
airport, the the to the convention center or to the
theme parks. That is a totally separate agreement.
Not part of the original agreement with the 61 half
miles of sunrail some looking forward to see how that would.
We like to sunrail and more importantly the ridership I'm
not yet seen any ridership numbers have you seen those
ground shipping numbers yet full. Specifically I've not but
I believe that they have but they are in the process of
preparing them. I don't think you see how it's going affect
because it will affect positively for the sunrail
corridor getting to the airport getting can Convention and it's
not just the airport, it's also the convention also the theme
park.
So I want to make sure we're not just
we're looking at just important portion that we're looking at
the entire sunshine quarter piece of it that just important
I fully support doing this in stages, but I think that he's
points need to be addressed
and they need to be conveyed through our staff to the
working group.
Before we can agree with something
and to my comments and chair.
Commissioner, zembower.
>> I won't go over everything that commissioner dallari as
just articulated minor very similar to that mine are a
little more hardened
and have
actually developed through the years based on.
What it appears that my fellow commissioners desire is which
the last time we have this conversation. It's my
understanding that we've agreed that we own it.
At some point and I think at the end of the day if you
want some real bring themselves to be did go back and read the
original and the second the 3rd and the 4th and the 5th
Amendment.
This contract is so far out of contract from the original
contract. It's ridiculous.
Many of our residents were not happy with the original
contract now here we are many years later
5 or 6 times the money that we were we anticipate to pay
and so much sticking point is if we
I agree that
we're going to take this light rail mass transportation
project and I don't like we read to them we're not going to
stick with the original contract. I am not interested
in doing anything until
the land is don't and Volusia County has an agreement to move
forward with the rest of the partners with lakes.
That's that's my sticking points.
That said.
I'm not so sure how long it's going to take to work through
this agreement because my count there are 7 government entities
we're involved with this
that might push us down the road, another several years.
Multiple counties, the city legs, you got the dog. All
right. There's a will there's a lot of government I fingers in
the pot here that all have to come to agreement so
you know it it went from
because more protected than the fair ride. And all those things
I think
the last agreement here was we were sort of putting that
behind us and try to move forward.
But for me it's it's a hard no until
Volusia County stations done that's the one part of the
contract of that.
I think we should uphold.
Any other questions or commissioner.
>> Let's just provide some clarity around that does
anybody on our team run as Volusia County it's scheduled
to be done.
>> At this point the projections are I believe June
of 2024.
>> You nodding, yes, John because John was about to get
up so there's not yet behind you. Okay so that's June of
2020 form we're talking about a 3 year transition plan and
we're sitting at
November of 2023. So the question of it being done
before this happens is already resolved. Right.
Now you know
but really things can blow up but what I heard from
commissioner zembower when it's done I heard from you a year
after it's done in both of those instances if it's done
according to when they think it's going to be done.
It's covered it's covered.
I just want to make sure we're all thinking that through in
terms of the timeline because it's sounding like we're
objecting but the timeline that that's out there get this it's
happening concurrently
you know what I'm saying I do, but I don't agree with that OK
so so I'm asking.
>> Very clear one year.
The original contract said one year after.
You know now Lucia us now with more.
You know get rid of contracts in 7 years. Well, yeah, okay,
regional contracts as 7 years after the Lakers system.
>> Hate the discrepancy is dot is taken.
Operation of the system to mean from the beginning of operation
of phase, one which was in 2014 so their position is they
should have transitioned in 2021 right our position is it's
7 years operation of the system.
The system is not complete yet because the face to the north
from
very to the land has not been constructed yet it is not an
operation.
So that would be the the other extreme position is
the transition. Should it.
Should occur 7 years after the Deland station bills.
But again the local government partners have not been
advocating for another 7 years of operation.
We're looking for some type of.
We're so happy median price of one year after it's completed.
>> One year after it's completed is nowhere in any
documents just so I understand correct that's just a directors
in concert or is it.
Industry concept that when you build a system like this there
is a
turned to Vernon period. It's a work out the kinks to
get the scheduling right to make sure all the equipment is
operating correctly, and that's usually about a one year
period. So let's let's talk through that it's a one-year
period after operational after they start operations, yeah,
and so this is that and that's where I think land.
I don't know that you need a year and on and just talking
this jury was saying that I disagree with you this is all
been it's just you know, this is no fun when I'm just trying
to but you don't need a year to figure out the scheduling for
an extension to land is the tip of the tail of the dog, not
even the tail of the dog.
It's just going a little bit further from the very correct.
So it it's not and it's this and this that is all this
system does it doesn't do any of this yet so that's not a
schedule like like I don't.
I don't know that we're going to prevail in that in those
arguments, especially with the timeline so where I am I was
leading all at all that to say
I truly do think that we really need to lean in on figuring out
how to collaborate to have this become the best possible
outcome that can be that's already started in terms of
their now addressing the ticketing system that has
apparently been terrible for 7 years, but we ignored it
however, many years spent we didn't know it.
When we complained about it, but they ignored it because we
didn't known as the Royal way I would rather it was the Royal
way I would rather get it turned over and let us run the
dagen thing we have all said that government closer to the
locality is better.
>> But in this instance we want to slow it down and let fdot
continue to run a training system that they never wanted
to run long term and that's what worries me. Yeah, I'm not
an arrest and have enough talk to you to run it, I'm
interested in having a completed first
as it was initially set right
if it takes one year according to the group to run in and work
through all the cakes
that's what I'm fine take over once that's completed.
Glanz Don they have their year burning and recheck and just
whatever and say hey we're confident everything's fine.
We can turn the wheel.
That's we're we're my year comes and on top of the 7 of
the 14 and the other previous that word before
again that's all water over the dam you but to me it's going to
be year the barn and then we should make sure to its
complete and then the burden is complete then we can take it
over.
>> We've had some briefings.
Mister Grant I had an opportunity to meet with
secretary Tyler and some other folks just to kind of because
commissioner dallari you're the only person who sits on this
CFC RC and so when we get our information from a variety of
sources I just want to make sure that we are
answering the question that's being asked because there's a
lot of history, I'm married to a man who continues to call
sunrail a boondoggle right.
>> So I so I guess yeah, right I know and then the bill Hyde
we'll say yeah right OK so we get all that yes I was down I
got you so coming from that perspective.
We still need to move forward.
And what's best I think for this region and for our
community is that we
get it together and move forward and what and what I
thought what I still think we're being asked today is to
give direction to our staff
to to move forward with next steps now granted some next
steps require probably looking some old ones and
but there is a partnership and there are other partners and
and we don't get to dictate
to the entire groups we may have our preferences but our
staff has to know where
where they're negotiating points are because to come in
as a staff member with a hard and fast. My board is telling
me only one year after Deland is complete that may put them
on man out and give them no flexibility to negotiate
whatsoever and
and hold everything up because my understanding is there has
to be unanimity in this thing and I don't want to be frankly
I do want to be the organization that holds this
whole thing up for an entire region because we were
insistent on this one-year that's not written anywhere
after taking over Deland
so for clarity
we're we're being asked to
modify and update the existing agreement is that correct you
what that's what you all as a team are going to have to
modify and update the existing agreements that cracked.
Yes, primarily
>> to remove the.
>> Existing a maximum operating deficit. Okay, and then also to
do other minor cleanups because if we're doing the phasing
agreement so of
transitioning from fdot to the operating entity
may be inconsistent with some of the language in this the
system or in the current operating agreement so we're
just making sure we're not
creating an agreement that's inconsistent with the other
agreements so we're we're making sure that they are
running
parallel with each okay.
>> So to take this one bite of the Apple at a time, maybe you
can walk us through each of the pieces of direction that you
need from us and we can take so if the first one is giving you
authority to work through adjusting and modifying the
existing agreement.
Then maybe that's what we should do is do is there for a
direction to we have direction to tell staff to go in and
modify and be a part of updating the existing agreement
as Mister chair Poppe just stated commissioners on our.
>> The consultants told on the study on the transition portion
right with you.
The the plug on on the transition study the consultant
is basically done.
There was
not a consensus that links would be the operating entity.
There was a presumption that links would have been the
operating entity. But the consultant is not finishing the
report until they get a little bit more comfortable to put
links and as the operating entity for purposes of their
drafting of the recommendations so we cannot give you any
direction that regard.
If that's still an outstanding discussion point or the the the
way we were
proposing to work around that is to make that presumption.
That link says the operating
and to tease so we do the owners Lincoln ago she Asians
with links to find out the
terms of the operating agreement what is necessary
what is essential to that agreement and then if we can't
reach terms with links.
The
the operation and the negotiations that we have had
are still very valuable because any operating agreement with
any
operating entity would still need to address those same
terms so so to commissioner Lockhart's point.
>> Can you is it the other 3 point you need direction on the
1.5 points 8 points that we can maybe
help move.
>> Well, that's what I just tried to do so I said, let's
start with the first one. So I asked if there was
consensus from the board to give staff direction to move
forward with modifying updating the existing agreement.
And my answer would be yes, but you don't agree is not offer.
>> I sing what the terms of the agreement are we're authorizing
and move forward to have them work on the terms of the
agreement so my answer to that question is yes, because we'll
never know what the terms of the agreement are going to be
if we know work on it and quite honestly if we don't lean in
and start working on it, they're just going to do
without us.
>> Right, I know one of how many did you identify. 5 I
thought we were already working I agreement 1, 5, 1, already
working on the ground and we are working so I thought and
that's all purpose here to read and why this is come here
publicly is because our board has been identified along with
Lucia County as one as the only other entity that is not given
clear direction to our team when they come to the table to
have these conversations so we are having a public
conversation to give our staff the direction that is needed so
that they have the support of this board to move forward and
participate. So if we want to have a voice at the table we
need to give some direction that's what I'm asking that's
what Paul is asking for that's what the county manager and the
secretary of dot is asking for.
>> And sure commissioner dallari thank you for that
reason why talked about one year after the completion
should be in May.
You know the full agreement together it will take about 12
months correct call.
That's what I've been told.
>> The schedule that has been proposed to us has the working
staffs collectively is is much shorter than that it's it's
it's a painted that this agreement will come back to you
in the early spring.
>> So commissioner, yeah, last time commissioners. Her camp,
yeah, I'm I'm I'm trying to take a little deeper, so
I think we have I think.
>> I think what we're trying to do is give direction beyond
what the direction is being asked correct me if I'm wrong I
think the direction I hear that you disagree, but I'm I'm going
to finish. So I think that
now is it is not and I'm going to ask you to confirm this now
is not necessarily took the time to give
specifics around what should be negotiated.
Now is the time to give new direction to say we do want our
team at the tables and we want them sharing points that we may
make we're going to leave that for a separate separate item.
So the answer to yes, we want you to move forward and we want
you to be at that table negotiating and we are
expecting this to move forward in some form or fashion.
Can we at without adding any layers of complexity to that do
we all agree on that piece.
Commissioner zembower you said you already thought they were
doing it. Well it.
>> I completely understand what you're trying to write and I
don't disagree.
I have a core principle. I have no problem ago, shading,
but I'd like to know what the point of negotiation are and
what I'm hearing from you is
let them go to negotiate, but no direction as to what we're
negotiating about.
>> That's not that you're hearing because I haven't
finished I'm asking if we agree on that piece.
>> I think we've already authorized and they've been
going to these meetings and less well one of you are in a
timely.
>> Years are not clear on that, so they themselves to clarify
so, let's just humor them and to clarify.
>> Right, I mean, I'm happy to clarify there was there was no
understanding on my behalf.
That we were not
talking with our partners in the Goshen now we may be at
odds with what they believe should have that's different
than not being at the table negotiate. I'm sorry about all
that
if Paul you're telling me we're just showing up in everybody's
like you guys have no authority to negotiate to talk about
anything.
>> It's not the other team. It's our team. Our team is
saying that we do not we have not given them from their
perspective.
The direction to have a voice at that table, okay them is
this a great. Yes, we actually made a motion.
>> And I clarify not just with one County attorney but 2
County attorneys that we authorize our staff modified to
negotiate
with all funding partners that are involved with sunrail and
bring back an agreement with us and later today we made that
motion in court to read it back if you can check the records on
the way it was but it was least 2 meetings ago. We did make
that motion. I made the motion that was seconded by who I
don't know it was passed unanimously, and we verified to
for clarification purposes we have given staff full authority
to negotiate that agreement
in this board meeting.
Not this one, but it is, but chambers we have done that that
that's where lost and we gave direction.
>> A year or 18 months ago.
And I've had briefings while the said briefings at least
2 or 3 times in the last 18 months and talking about
different points and so for us it that's that's why I'm
somewhat perplexed and I totally get it.
But but I want to make sure that we're all clear
that we all have one core understanding.
There was a comment made earlier that all partners have
to be in agreement
that's fine. But there's one government agency here that has
the job our
who's already shown us that they're going to exercise it
and that is the Florida Department transportation who
stole Volusia
we are on board you're not what is taking your 5 year work
program. We're going to tell us the same thing said the end of
the day, you're negotiating against ourselves so at the end
of the day was a matter of our staff does in my opinion
because it's going to be.
>> Haha Constantine thank you so it's great that we have such
a good relationship with Jared Perdue because seems that
you're saying that he's going to be the dictator on this.
You know, I'm looking at the next steps here and I can see
the confusion and everybody in the next steps just say
concurrence from dot
concurrence from central Florida get see if CRC
and direct staff to develop the following operation phasing
agreement air local governance agreement revisions and pre
transition action items.
I don't see a teammate to that I see very general.
I guess I need as Paul what exactly are you asking us to
do.
At this point.
>> I was merely making a statement confirming that the
direction that we had previously received
is still the direction you want us to go big yes we go further
into these negotiations. Things get more granular yeah,
okay, I just want to make sure that there's no misconception
that are negotiations are divergent from what your
understanding of where we are going car.
>> OK and so since I still have 4 so now we've got at least
what you're asking us to do.
And I think that in all different ways we're saying yes
continue to proceed on these negotiations continue to
proceed on the way that the the motion that commissioner de
lory had brought up 4 is and when you see that that is that
needs you know there is some diversion diversion from back
come back and work with this and let us know so that we can
continue to be informed and also a direct and what we feel
is important. I understood because last time when.
>> Commissioners Larry did make that motion. The board voted on
it.
We understood that but we're also told to go meet with each
of the commissioners individually brief phone.
2 and this is what we've done that and now this is the
follow-up to say
again our understanding is we have direction to go and
negotiate on these points and we were just confirming that
with the board to make sure you are on the same page that staff
is so it is the motion, the.
>> Direct staff to continue to work with our partners and
bring us back to whatever additional information that
will. Now that we know what you want I think that's appropriate
second.
You just pay shipping.
No I don't.
>> Chair like a commotion of the question is. Motion.
So there's
let's make sure that kyler has the motion exactly as it was
stated because there.
Go ahead commissioner said Mayor if you would and restate
the motion.
>> Motion to give staff direction and supporting them
to continue to negotiate with our partners and return back to
us.
Whatever information they take food from the continue
negotiations.
>> Because the second and there was a second.
Before I call the vote.
>> Is there any input or anything that our County
attorney or County manager.
>> The only input. Final case go into something that I was
going to say the same thing is that as we go through this will
be update could bring all that back and updating the board on
each step of the process as we as we move through this.
>> Yeah and we don't need to beat a dead horse here bang
immediately after the last board meeting there were some
additional meetings with the the steering group and things
do start to get more granular want to make sure that you
understand we're going to need to be amending the operate the
existing operating documents with regard to the deficit
numbers and continuing to negotiate with the presumption
that links is going to be operating partner so we didn't
really get into that level of detail a month ago or 3 weeks
ago and so you know before we go off, you know,
you know in a direction that is not consistent with the board's
consensus. We wanted to check back in.
>> We've got a motion all those in favor say aye aye any
opposed motion passes unanimously. Thank you very
much.
So I'm not going to hear back from anybody else that Seminole
County is the one that's holding up the works right.
Well, I'm not at all wouldn't go as far to say that well
that's what I keep hearing so we keep trying to fix what we
keep hearing so that change that.
>> All right, what do we have a county managers report or
County attorney County attorney.
Anything else from County jury know that kind of manager
report.
>> Well just 2 things well on behalf of the 1600 Ford
employees we want to wish you all a happy Thanksgiving.
Cervelli this on a happy note. So and we really support
your actions. This morning with the additional holiday time off
so I've gotten just over a lunch of just got inundated and
thanking me and thanking the board. So
thank you for that also
Mister Ted will ski is here that if you could stand up he's
our new director of Fleet and facilities, some of you already
know him as you know, we broke a few of these divisions out
from public works in created. A new department Chad is
leading that department he started yesterday with this so
I just want to welcome him aboard as well welcome welcome.
You and I got to spend some time to.
>> All right the beers, yeah, haha.
>> Here just a tad knows we have a lot of work to be done
here with mental health, some sugar.
>> Haha.
>> Good thing we funded that for the sheriff, a good check
in.
>> So moving on to district commissioner for us our first
one is district 3.
>> All righty thank you very much just wanted to.
We congratulate our own County for being part of the operation
green light for veterans, saw the beautiful green lights in
the pictures, that's just wonderful. Thank you very much
for that for that I know that all our veterans would
appreciate have appreciated that.
I was so excited, I just want you to know I attended a fire
Department in station 12 their life saving award and
to have the individual there that they say this is the end
of October we did that they saved the life she was actually
they had to bring her back from death and it was just you know
just to see the love from all of it wasn't also the to this
city of Altamonte Springs Police Department was part of
that and it was just a you know a wonderful event and I I
always enjoy going to those because it just shows how much
the firefighters and of course other public service folks are
doing for our community.
I attended I'm not going to pay a whole lot other than it was a
wonderful event because I think that maybe commissioner her
would like to say, but the Rotary Club of Lake Mary 50
th-anniversary it was a really good. What a great club and
they they they really had a lot of fun.
On the November 9th, there is a lot of things going on data
from our philanthropic groups that do so much for community 2
of which we have supported in the past.
I was able to make it to both of them the lifeboat project
that was did their annual event and so did alleys hope at
cranes roost
I didn't want to
I don't know if we're going to have the the opening for the
zoo, Asian lantern on the on the 16th, but with the with the
weather but I do want to say that that's coming up and it's
always a great event and a big fundraiser for the zoo.
The Rotary Club of Seminole County South is doing their
arts crafts and wine Festival, this 18th and 19th the cranes
roost
and I will be speaking at the annual meeting of the lake
Brantley Lake management group. They have like 8 different
homeowners associations as part of that. And they've asked me
to talk about them and what they you know the like
situation in Seminole County and others on the 21st. I will
also be with the Christian and Chris with at Grace Road.
And that community trying to figure out how we can do the
ongoing concerns about
traffic speeding and so that should be a lot of fun
and I also wanted to ask Kate has got our County attorney.
Kate, you know over the years this group sometimes it was
full sometimes partial had our ethics program in early
December. I don't know with that's happening again I just
want to those as to whether I have to make other arrangements
to do my ethics penny for the year.
>> I think that's yet to be determined that was going to
speak to each of you on if you're relying on the county
Attorney's Office to assist that I know in years past,
there's been a presentation put on had. A couple members of the
board appear attend. So I'm I'm open to discussing that with
you.
>> We don't have any more meetings until near what the
mid December number one and I know we can do it online.
But I just want to make you just want to know if you know
what my options are so thank you very much I think well you
if we can get of with we'd get together offline I appreciate
absolutely and then I just want to wish everybody happy
Thanksgiving.
District 5.
Right now trying to make this quick but I have 10 items on
the list. Not you normally, the one that does that.
>> Congratulations on the midway Park renovation it is
really it happened fast, it's beautiful. We had a whole
community event out there including a lot of folks from
midway elementary so that was a pretty cool. And it's fun to go
out and act like a kid at an event and then have pictures
that remember it forever so
I did attend on October 27th, the 30th anniversary of HSN so
that's the homeless services network luncheon down in
Orlando with a few of our team members and they had some
inspirational stories of folks that have actually conquered
living without shelter and have moved on and are working and
told their stories it was really worth while attending.
I hesitate to bring up bring this up given the previous
conversation, but on a good note. Ridership for links is up
and it is the highest it's ever been on Saturdays and Sundays.
And Orange County has put in a significant amount of funding
for a commitment to increased routes. So when you hear about
increased routes.
That is the funding partner where it's happening that is
funding that is not us.
I want to thank Darren criss for attending the November 1st
Markham Woods, homeowners Association meeting we had I'm
going to guess a 150 or so people in attendance, it was a
really well attended meeting and we had a really good
discussion. Sheriff was also there are presented and I got
the dubious honor to present right after he spoke for about
an hour.
>> And so that was fun and they're going that you did a
great job.
>> I attended the Seminole County public schools
foundations native impact which was there the most raised ever
since that event has started now that event has only been in
place for 2 years but prior to that was arts alive.
And it is a an event that funds for unrestricted spending for
things that taxpayer dollars don't pay for the school
district. The Rotary Club of Lake Mary 50 years old does
throw a heck of a party we did a thoroughly enjoy ourselves.
And it is an awesome group and I might be a little bit biased
because my husband is a member there there and I'm a frequent
flier they're not always nominated to be on the cleanup
committee and I did speak about that a little bit because that
does seem to be somehow what my kids and I get signed up for.
But we're highly qualified to do that and we do it. Well.
City of Sanford had their veterans day. Event and
oh my goodness I'm blanking on his name are our veterans and
yes.
It was
I'm sorry that's all tells us that did an amazing job he
really did an amazing job and it was a great event very very
moving.
I want to point out that we've all been solicited thru a
lobbying organization and I know Allan has sent out e-mails
about this but the way that that is playing out in the
public is really bothersome to me and it is a solution and
look it in search of a problem they are trying to make sure
that we're euthanizing a minimum number of animals every
year and we're already doing that so their representation of
this issue is really bothersome to me I I have not met with
them yet, but I will meet with them. And when you break down
the numbers we all are already euthanizing 0 for breed type
and 0 for space.
We do however, allow owners to bring in animals that are at
the end of life so that they can efficiently have that dog
or cat or any other sort of animal pass on with out of that
building a family can for which may cause them to take measures
that are not necessarily humane. So we're above and
beyond on this already I love with the organization is doing
where it needs to be done.
So I'll just leave it at that.
I personally would tell you that it has I you know Bryant's
ethics training was humorous and all that good stuff but it
takes a considerable amount of your staff time to deliver that
and build it and work through it and I would tell you that we
have a lot of work to do and a lot of our staff feels
compelled to go sit in the room for that duration of that
training. And because we're there so there's a pressure
point there that is created that is not necessarily
efficient or effective a lot of us take that training through
other venues and vehicles for the other boards that we sit on
as well and I am happy to do that to put efficiency back
into the operation and I know more about base baseball than
everyone to know in the past
and then.
I also want to say before before I make this appointment
that I loved dominique's email. I think I just freak Dominique
out haha I love your e-mail about the new methodology for
appointing 2 boards where it comes it's on the consent
agenda. It's vetted through a centralized location. So that
we're not up here trying to figure it out
hats off to I thought that was a great process improvement.
But it's not ready yet so I moved to appoint friend or your
us to the tourism development Council with an effective date
of 1116 2023 to 1231 of 2024 with placing Elizabeth
Elizabeth Brown who resigned second.
There's a motion and a second.
>> Before I call for a vote, I'm going to ask you and put
you on the spot because I have an appointment to the TDC as
well as replacing Eric to Sharm never mind when I was afraid
you were going to be duplicating efforts got a
motion a second all those in favor say aye aye any opposed
motion passes unanimously.
>> So that would have all been worked out had been a process
and we're still working on that with some still lurking I loved
it.
It's a weird thing to get excited about. This is going to
struggle since I got here.
That is all I have to pay district one. Thank you madam
chair.
This past weekend.
>> The great women of the view had with their women's club,
and great day in the country.
It is there 49 tier have a great day in the country.
For those who may not know a 100% of the proceeds goes back
into the community
in schools or other charitable organizations and it's in the
thousands of dollars each year.
This year's it 49 tier next year be the 15th and asked him
to submit so that we can do a resolution proclamation for the
50th year. I think the ladies there have done a phenomenal
job.
Over the years and that's just.
The 49 years just to break down the country they've been around
for over a 100 years and is truly truly amazing. What those
leaders have I'm over the decades and the amount of
people that were there this past Saturday was amazing.
Hats off to all the hard work.
It's amazing the hard work that has legs put
to put that show on that show but event on
it takes them all year.
And it shows all the hard work and dedication.
I truly had the ability to meet with
best friends animal society commissioner
and I know that data.
We launched a program called the change 7 some things change
saved Seminole
my conversation with Allen he did a present this document
that we are at 0 or 100%.
I would do it whichever way you look at it. My conversations
with them.
The best friends animal society. They want a commitment
from the county that would be at least 90%.
I'm glad we're at a 100%.
So we exceed their expectations and I'm glad that they were
able to do that. This document was given to us on Thursday
from Alan.
There is a general here in the audience. I did introduce him
to the county manager.
And they both agreed to talk
because as we all know,
we do a pride ourselves on being the best of the best and
our staff
has taken that with a no kill shelter.
And they are definitely helping
four-legged friends and other friends that are in the animal
persuasion. To AIDS.
I just wasn't sure where you want to change in what we were
saving now, but the Allen doesn't aim of Alan and his
group nominal job. So many different levels tonight.
Compliment unemployed, every one of them as well as all the
volunteers that make it happen. Throughout the year, especially
when.
There are so many trying times when things do happen that
they'll have to put in a lot of extra effort we hear about
that.
So many times we don't may not say thank you enough and I just
want to say thank you we all say thank you to Allen his
team. They do a phenomenal job time and time again.
Well the past week or so I did see a
commissioner Constantine and then she ation for a festival.
It was great to see you there with the father Ivan.
One of the booths there. It was truly a another great
event I guess this is the season. For events as well as
Ali is hope.
They did a great job and I know that one of our staff members
was a hope in auction off a little dog under the sea that
dog so well behaved and so well taken care of was truly
amazing.
Almost looked as if it was not real, but it was real.
I will always behaved
again we could keep on hearing about all the lifesaving things
that our firefighters and paramedics to hats off to all
of you we still as a way to actually recognize them all on
a new basis because they just truly all do such a phenomenal
job chief the training that union staff too
really
shows
that Seminole County
really cares and really goes the extra mile to chief please
tell your staff it goes unnoticed and thank you
I also want to
congratulate MS. Johnson for a birthday that she had the other
day.
Not to give the numbers that being polite.
Get it's a great number.
But a happy birthday Trish Johnson for him, it's not hers.
Haha
and again I'd be remiss by saying I want to wish everyone
this is definitely time of year too
spend time with their families and give thanks for all the
things that we've been given
and grace to have over a and spend time with your families
and friends and the people that we love and care for us so
everyone have a happy Thanksgiving and my report.
Thank you to stick to.
>> Thank you, madam chair, I wish I could say and be briefed
all try to get through some of those quick as I can I won't
tell us so
they raised over a $100,000 fantastic stuff.
Imitation heard earlier Lake dollar grand opening some land
states weather plenty 10:30AM tomorrow morning at the
2 billion 100 Lake drive like that drive for those who want
to attend.
Course the Orlando Sanford airport air show as you all
know was October 28th 2928th.
We don't always understand what that is the air show some want
to share some stats real quick just to get the kind of
exposure Seminole County in Sanford Mary received
and that will last till TV audience was
10 million 759 thousand people that watch that are show
about 1.9 million dollars worth of publicity were created over
that just and TV. 333,000 radio listeners, 442,000 social media
followers.
It was a great event was sold out on Saturday Sunday was
close out for those that you made it
I think you enjoy the a good air show that is going to be
coming up next year instead of April by the way it's not going
to be in the fall to be the April
and it's going to be the Blue Angels, instead of the from the
first. So everything's going to be switched up again for next
year.
Everybody was for the copy from my office of email from very
MPO just sort of putting those they've requested.
When we have the opportunity and we can because they're
having trouble and some
filling in forms for some of the meeting so.
For that's worked.
I also have multiple appointments to make it we all
would bear with me.
I would like to make a motion to reappoint janai Nelson for 2
year term to the library board on one for 24.
>> Was a motion such there's a second by commissioner her put
it to them oh 01:00AM et
I was trying not to confuse dominate. But I can do I don't
think money it's the one that's been confused haha
i'ts okay, I know, I mean it's
it's that sometimes what the motion is supposed to be
doesn't match what it is and that's how we kind of got out
of whack and so so
go for it OK, then we'll and then maybe an inmate, maybe
you'd be gracious enough that if some of the 8 matchup may be
dominant Dominique could have the opportunity we come back
into that week.
It may be.
>> The library board to the Nelson two-year term one for 24
animal control, Mister Brian Wilson for a two-year term.
2 year term we're going 1, 1, 24. Contractor examiners John
Edgar for one year term beginning 1, 1, 24.
Planning and zoning Richard German for a four-year term and
1, 1, 24.
Waratahs tag er to a four-year term on planning and zoning on
1, 1, 24.
>> So Mister sonner going to ask you if you don't mind there
is an appointment and that makes that I'm not comfortable
with and so if you're doing this as a slate.
>> Well just tell me that when we take out
Richard Sherman
I could take him out.
What makes a promotional that okay.
>> Seminole County Port Authority Matt CRISWELL for a 3
year term beginning 1, 1, 24.
>> So it is motion by commissioner zembower for all
of them except for Richard Sherman who is doing separately
seconded by commissioner dallari all those in favor say
aye aye any opposed motion passes unanimously.
Now go back.
>> For appointment of Richard Sherman to a four-year term and
1, 1, 24 for planning and zoning.
>> Second there's a motion by commissioner zembower second by
commissioner dallari and I I will not be in support of that
motion because of the multiple communications that we've had
from the public about his demeanor on the board and I
feel that there may be some conflicts and so I can't
support that understood.
>> We're on and I would agree I I have not dealt with the
conflicts but I would say that
this is a representation to the public that's a reflection on
us and
we all know how hard it is not to get heated in these
discussions and we work really hard at doing that and we do a
really good job at that so to have it sort of go up off the
rail in other committees that are acting on our behalf
worries me.
Any other discussion.
>> All those in favor say aye aye motion all opposed say no
no motion passes 3 to 2.
>> Also move a motion to send Mister Walter ground off we're
a little appreciation for serving on planning and zoning
say it.
>> Motion and a second for a letter of appreciation all
those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion passes.
>> And I think that wraps up my report I think everything else
and district 2 is.
>> I will I have one appointment to make.
>> And it is also on the TDC replacing air Ducharme I'll be
appointing Josh Gundersen who is coming in Oviedo mall he and
I had a lovely conversation where he explained to me why
the Oviedo mall is considered an attraction.
>> Was that first apart there having so many activities and
events and they are it's amazing how many people they
bring in there for their repurposing of the mall and
have taken it sank Econo told me he was a great person and
that he was really. In addition, so yeah, he says if
Kiev out just from now he really was very impressive.
I think you all enjoy getting to meet him and yes can
identify needed to do a sales pitch are not just. Second all
those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion passes
unanimously.
With the traction I have I know I I that was how I open the
conversation like tell me why the Oviedo mall is an
attraction again, I'm passing out this letter of support that
was requested for NCAA
for the NCAA to those their tennis championships here it's
a little Park again for 2628 we're on a time crunch to get
this done so I went ahead and had drafted and signed it with
your consensus that will go back to Danny trust that for
submission motion approved the be sent to the chair. Motion by
commissioner zembower second by commissioner her all those in
favor say aye any this motion passes unanimously, thank you
for your willingness to that on the fly.
As you all know, we hosted the Seminole County legislative
delegation meeting here a couple of weeks ago was a huge
success, lots of people in attendance. I'm always so glad
that we're able to offer our space to the delegation.
Somehow we need to communicate though for future that Trisha
Johnson is not the administrative support for that
delegation meeting because I think she gets dragged into
everything that goes on for that meeting but lots of
different members of the public with their various appeals to
the delegation and it was it was found on. We have a
question on that trip because I wasn't here.
Well, the commitments
was my understanding that Marion County showed up to
discuss a request for.
>> A priority for an Emmys office. Yes they did OK just
want to make sure that I heard that and we can send you the
video clip to watch not have that was fascinating sure it
was supposed to do that.
No it's just
an arrest. It's not normal. It was it was an out of the
Abbott was out of a Medicare normal for sure delegation.
>> He's we I think that the explanation that was given is
that because we are part of that and the circuit then this
delegation would not have heard their pitch. They felt that it
was worth the drive down here to talk to them and I think.
>> The road or inform them that he was fully aware of
it's my understanding to remember to go back and watch
it.
There were a lot of things that are out of form from that.
And yeah.
>> So also attended the night of impact what for the Seminole
County public schools Foundation what commissioner
her neglected to tell you is that there was one table and
the entire ballroom that was the special table and it was a
it was a drawing that you if you've got to he won the
drawing you got to sit at this table that and upgraded
appetizers and a beautiful centerpiece and so we all know
how much commissioner her loves to be the center of attention
and wound up sitting in the middle of the events for the
entire and that is referred to as the party table she's been
gracious. It was the party table and they were more empty
bottles of wine on the table than any other people in the
room it was great everybody had a great time that's howland's
that was exhibited by the Seminole County public school
students that performed was absolutely exceptional we have
so much to be proud of it was really great.
The
so I I do I I our deputy County managers birthday was not Chris
are you are well loved because there are a lot of other
birthdays in this County Alan Harris had a birthday Deborah
Shaffer had over say Allison fall had a birthday this last
week as anybody in the entire cadre of 141600 come all County
employees who had a birthday since our last County
Commission meeting happy birthday commissioner
Constantine had a birthday chart 3939.
Data and
I will be going on a field trip along with. Mister gray and
some other employees down to cherry Lake which is an Lake
County they are the owners of Cherry Lake are fundamental key
component to the outside collaborative thank you talking
to you all about and I'm hoping that we can start to develop a
relationship with them so that we might be a really good local
government partner. As some of these conversations move
forward with looking at
policy pilots and things like that.
>> Madam chair, if you haven't been there, it's stand anybody
else they're having every Saturday they're having like in
the country. Now and picking your own that can treat
everything but
if you haven't been to that farm it's amazing it really is
you'll love it, I'm excited to see the demonstration gardens
of
native plants and the things that they're doing to help
lessen the need for food for water being poured on the
ground. As you all know election day was December 7th.
I have participated in multiple canvassing board meetings.
There will be another one tomorrow at 10:00AM we
performed a manual audit of one of the precincts that
was selected that like put out out of the hat out of a hat.
I would like for the county attorney at some point and the
county manager to talk with us about the possibility of
I adopted as part of our administrative code, how this
board handles the canvassing board because absent direction
from this board is just kind of this is what we do and I think
in the past because we've had a supervisor of elections that
just you know micro tell did things a certain way Sandy
goard all all of the prior supervisors of elections.
There's an opportunity for more folks to participate and for us
to be taking on a role
that will probably be appropriate if if we can
put it in writing what this sport doesn't support that.
Okay so there's consensus from the board to start formulating.
An amendment to the code.
>> The firefighters were firefighters a little bit they
are having a toy drive on December 1st at friendly
confines and Lake Mary. So if you have some toys that you
would like to bring by 04:00AM children in Seminole County,
I know that they would love to see you and and that the kids
would appreciate the toys.
But there is a Florida Association of counties
legislative conference that starts tomorrow in Tampa there
are some other meetings that go on as well. I will be leaving
for Tampa after the canvassing board meeting will be there for
a day and a half or so. And we'll have any updates for you
all there on any of the policies and things that are
discussed and I know commissioner Constantine if
you're going or not but yeah
and I think
Kate Trisha last of the great so we'll have it
we'll have will be well represented.
It
concludes my report I just want to thank you all for your
support this last year being chairman all of you who have
served as chairman in the past know that you never know what
you're going to get its being chairman is a little bit like a
box of chocolates. And on this year is no exception and so I
appreciate immensely the way that this board has operated
and even in the face of some some challenges we've I think
we've represented our community very well and thank you all
very much for the work that you did and I'd like to take a
moment to thank
chairman Lockhart.
>> Her leadership and on board and county manager and a new
County attorney. The 2 key
positions in our County.
It was a struggle, you know, and now now they've got their
feet wet and
thank goodness for good staff that we had here that kept
things moving along until.
Mister Graham missile Tori got on board and and of course
chair Lady
make sure everybody feel comfortable in giving people
the right places as speaks a lot for
trying to get things moving so thank you.
>> The mentor of those like to compliment you and you're not
in the direct is put your sense of humor
and your ability to steer us.
The past number of months, I know it's not an easy task in
you up for the task of want to compliment you for that thank
you to all the fans.
>> And her I would also say it it's interesting because we're
all thinking the same thing it's it's the onboarding of new
talent and then the changing of the organizational structure
and keeping us on track. I
I've only been through 3.
The way you conduct the meetings is appreciated
certainly I've paid really close attention. I actually
think we behaved better for commissioner Lockhart than we
did for you Bob for free, I can explain. That's on us too so we
have to maintain our good behavior. With with the next
transition. But I truly do appreciate not only the way
we've stepped into the line. But I've heard it from the
public as well that they appreciate the meetings better
that we have input his input and we're listening to it and
so it's it's just been a really good way to get us recalibrated
it was really hard for you all because I mean we're coming out
of this post covid environment where we just weren't normal ya
and I feel like you got us back to normal. And so that's that
was not an easy feat.
Appreciate all that I didn't like to do say one thing and
during my chairman's report.
>> And that is the annual review for the county manager
and the county attorney. We have it in both of their
contracts that one will be done the last time we did one was
2020.
The county were there.
>> They weren't here. La spina everywhere the metrics that
were chosen by the board at that time may not be the
metrics that we want to use moving forward so I have
provided both of them copies of what we used in the past and
I'm just so that there is something that is done before
this year and in the end of my term what I've asked them to do
and I think they already have as write down what they've
already accomplished which is amazing the things that they
have already accomplished in such a short period of time.
And what some of their goals are and to just run them so
that we can start off this new with the new chairman with kind
of a level set and then I will just right. A few sentences
maybe a paragraph. And you all are welcome to to do the same,
however you choose to do that just to that there is some
saying on record that there was a
a conversation about an evaluation of some of some sort
and then the next chairman and we can decide what to write.
>> The minister also
we sat down with both County attorney County manager in the
view them both of those victims. Those getting the
phenomenal job this past year.
This one the few times we actually have these
conversations about them
and I really think that
the level of expertise they brought to this County and the
changes it made
does go unnoticed and we should
I think that we should somehow address to compensation paid to
do that today.
I think that it would behoove us to do that.
I didn't know if you want from of the motion if you have more
time to think about already in the contract show down notice.
>> It's so let's take it up with a new chairman. Track
right here, yeah of them are both of them I have to both
very similar.
I I have not reviewed those and in a hot minute and I don't
feel comfortable doing that on the fly. I don't know if either
of you are OK, I mean it's not a slight edge to it should be
somewhat structure the yeah, yeah yeah.
>> Which I know we talked about it in here, it talks about
reviewing and October bring it back in November. It does call
for October 23 her and that's why I'm bringing it up yeah,
both of you. Yeah, yeah, you.
>> I can't imagine County attorney and chance so they
just start.
Have no problem waiting for whoever the new County the
county co-chair monies. But I think that should be addressed
because they think that they're both doing a very good job.
They are doing an excellent job.
Yeah, I know right, it's a great night. So so I will that
the and that's the end of my district report and chairman's
report and we have public comment is there anyone here
who would fill out a form to address the board anyone who
neglected to fill out a form who would like to address that.
I will close public comment.
Moving on to the board reorganization, I'm going to
the gavel that doesn't exist there's a gavel around here
somewhere used to the days to be an awareness to our County
attorney.
Thank you madam chair.
>> Well as you all know, and I guess for the benefit of the
public they boards operating policies and procedures require
the board to elect a chairman and vice chairman every year
their first meeting in November.
In a moment, I will open the Florida nominations, a
commissioner can nominate themselves they can nominate
another commissioner nominations do not require a
second ones being have all the nominations are close to
Florida nom to nominations and if there's more than one
nomination, we will take a vote in the order they are received
and the first person to receive a majority vote in favor of
that person will be elected chair and then can go through
the same process for vice chairman and I can pass the
gavel to the new chair I can conduct the election for the
for the vice chairs while whatever the pleasure of the
chairs so
are there any questions about the process.
>> No questions but I'd like to nominate a Jay zembower for
chair.
Any additional nominations to make a motion to close
nominations.
>> Second is not required for the motions so force closed to
nominations all in favor of commissioner zembower as
chairman please say aye aye any opposed.
All right congratulations commissioner zembower chairman
thank you I think so get one big question is somebody knows
something about a pandemic about the break-in.
>> Please know that no thank you very much, I appreciate the
confidence.
The vote from all of you thank you very much. Thank you
commissioner her for that nomination.
And I'm fine if the county attorney wants to proceed with
the vice chair. We have this time open the floor to
nominations for vice chair like to nominate injure faster.
It was nomination.
>> Florida's closed to nominations for vice chair on
favor of commissioner her as vice chair say aye aye any
opposed. Okay, congratulations commissioner.
Well, thank you you got my back yard.
I'm going to keep in line down.
We're going along just fine. Yeah, the sentence starts with
the.
I thank you.
I have one thing that I would like you to take up that we
need to take up. So too tomorrow is the last day of the
canvassing board for this round of elections.
I'm no longer the chairman of the county commission's serving
on the canvassing board. Yes, so I would ask
the county attorney
is it acceptable.
That worry.
>> Request commissioner Lockhart who continues and she
is started.
>> I switched horses right through the race, but
technically the statute requires that the chairman of
the Board of County commissioners serve on the
canvassing board and if you are not willing or able to serve
that you appoint another member of the board. So what we need
essentially is you too.
I approve of tear of commissioner Lockhart to
continue on the canvassing board for this election.
So.
>> This scheduled 6 hour deposition tomorrow. I am
unable to serve and I would request that my foot further.
My fellow board member support.
Commissioner Lockhart continuing and Steve were she's
already have in my absence.
>> And I'm happy to do it and it is your appointment at the
board's fantastic. Thank you very much appreciate the
technicality that I didn't want her to get there tomorrow and
there. Site yet and then I would just say just because of
the conversations and things that are going on with that
hold for the canvassing board issue if we could make it a
priority to get whatever needs to be in place because the
presidential preference primary will be upon us before we know
it so.
>> However, whatever that movement looks like going
forward, yes, I I think that's sooner rather than later,
we didn't understand legally from the county attorney where
we need to be in that.
A great show.
>> One last thing before we close out I know that we gave
all of the kudos to chairman Lockhart from the great job
that she did
she's talking out there, but I'm going to give great
Trudeau's to miss Nancy Irish.
Because we wouldn't have chairman Lockhart if it weren't
for you so thank you for giving her to us.
That that.
>> Oh yes we do. So yes, my mother is here, she's so sweet
she is one that is my biggest fan and as you all remember
this time last year we weren't sure that my mom was going to
be here this time this year so for all of you who prayed.
>> For her and kept her family and your thoughts we're really
grateful and our dear friend and neighbor, Beth Mason is
here with her as well we've got a great great community.
Some thanks for being harassed and where to get off too.
>> Tonight a conference call to brought the roses and left
complaining about something haha so.
Chairman yes, you're still the chair
is that right. Get the policies and procedures say that.
>> The new chairmanship takes over at the conclusion of this
meeting so that means that you'll still sign all of the
documents for this meeting and I need to approve number 3939
still on the agenda.
So item number 39 is affirmation of the standards of
conduct and this is something that is in our absence. Some of
the second motion by commissioner Constantine second
by commissioner dallari any discussion all those in favor
say aye any opposed motion passes unanimously.
Awesome thank you for catching that
all right I now I believe we are done if there's nothing
else come before the board will be adjourned at 3.33.