>> For those of you in the audience who have not attended
one of these hearings recently let me review our normal
procedure please
at the beginning staff will introduce each item for
consideration.
If you'd like to speak please fill out the form this out in
the lobby, an and into our clerk here can also indicate on
their the item number that you like to speak about and whether
you are in favor of the proposed to that matter.
When we get to each item the applicant and his or her
supporters will speak first.
Those in opposition to the request will be heard next.
Then the applicant will be given a chance for rebuttal.
Comments should be restricted to certain information directly
related to what's before us tonight, not whether or not
someone has been a good neighbor or a bad neighbor.
If you're an individual you'll have 3 minutes for your
comments if you represent a group will have 6 minutes for
your comments.
Speakers as the items being introduced if you can start
moving closer to the podium, if you feel that you'd like to
share comments with us tonight.
Please identify yourselves clearly for the record by
stating your name and address.
And each speaker should be given respectful and courteous
attention.
We may ask questions of each person we may not
any information you share will be kept as part of the record.
If you have items that are on the digital device. Please make
sure to coordinate with staff to send a copy of that just so
we keep it in the records
after everything is finished, I'll ask for a motion from the
board.
What's the motion has been made and seconded discussion will be
closed to the floor.
Following more discussion of would then be taken
during voting board members who do not cast objection votes are
considered to have voted in support of the motion.
At the in any person aggrieved by the decision of this board
made within 15 days file an appeal with the Board of County
commissioners. You can do that through the planning and
development division at the county and you can coordinate
with staff after the meeting and they can help you with
that.
So having said that let us start with our first sight.
>> Good evening and she Gates item number one was continued
from last month because we found a discrepancy in the way
the setback was being measured so the applicant went back 3
measures and found out that it was a foot last. So they are
before us again this month. The request is for a 5 yard.
South setback. 25 feet to 15 feet for an addition and our
when a single family dwelling district and the table with
section 3 subdivision located at 1875 me would road.
The proposed garage edition will be 624 square feet and
will encroach 10 up to the required 5 yards South setback
there not been any prior variances from this subject
property and that concludes my presentation.
>> Thank you Gentlemen, any questions for staff
seeing none is the applicant here.
This or anything in the show with us.
I think more than I did last week unless you have any
questions for me with regards to like my colleague, I don't
think was here during that time so maybe if you could just
share maybe a few. If you don't like maybe just a quick minute
of summarizing what what what your what your last time out
what you like or 1875 Maywood Road in Winter Park.
Last week we there was a question on the way to the
property is is sad.
Position 1000 that's on the property.
So there was a little question on you know the measurement for
that so I went back and have your project redraw draw and
determined the that we were off slightly from the original
request at 16 feet.
Anything else.
Gentlemen questions.
The question I have is have you spoken with your neighbors and
gotten their thoughts on what you're hoping to do if they're
excited for me to get started
all right. Thank you Sir, anyone else in the audience to
speak in support
of this
seeing none is there anyone in the audience to speak in
opposition.
Seeing none of entertain a motion Mister chair motion to
approve second the motion approved. And the second all in
favor signify by saying aye aye opposed.
Congratulations Sir, thank you very much.
>> Item number 2 is a request for rear yard setback variance
from 30 feet to 7 feet for an addition R when the single
family dwelling district and the winner was you know one
subdivision located at 2276 King Henry's court. The
applicant is proposing to build a 686 square-foot master
bedroom suite edition that one coach encroach 23 feet into the
require yard setback, one letter of support was submitted
from the neighbor located at 20 to 72. Henry's court not been
any prior variances are approved for the subject
property. We just a quick double check to see if any
variances are and we couldn't find any so this concludes my
presentation.
The gentleman any questions.
>> This is just one quick question of what what is that
what he looks like a you know what would this preserve Biden
the applicant's property do we know what that is yes.
If not I don't have kids or anything they can they can tell
me.
I think you said that you can hear yes please
step up to the microphone and then share with you share with
us your name and address for the record.
>> Pearl mayor 2, 2, 7, 6, contenders quarter when the
park.
I said that when you have to share with us.
You can see the current tradition that goes back to the
same distance that we're proposing already it was
permitted probably in the early 70's.
At that time so we already have
the existing structure that party goes to the same distance
that we're proposing to
Gentlemen the questions. Yes, of course because the
questions.
So it appears that you acquire the House in 87 that sounds
about right.
And that addition the back was already existing when you
bought it, yes, and they indicated that it was committed
at the time.
I see him he is not in the electronic records because it
was done.
We ought to go okay. So that's not your dining room, your
dining room is inside the House, yes, the dining room,
a dish and that is the other side of the draw is 2001.
So,
what you're proposing to add to the House is going to be flush
with the existing back role.
Yes, not flush with it you can see to arrest all of our
current health sports not show that
you see the arrows the addition
and it doesn't go all the way to all we have approximately 7
feet
to the back. It's about this.
>> I think he's asking it's it's in line. It's a White
House now has okay.
Was anyone in the audience to speak in support.
With this.
Yes, ma'am she mentioned that there was or if you wish you
could you please give us your name and address, I'm sorry to
the mayor to 2, 7, 6, King and his court order.
I think and you mentioned there was one little sport, but we
submitted 2 letters side only have one.
We do have to say we have we have to property showing your
side. Yes, yeah, yeah oh yes to it was.
I said, I said Jesus
I never double checked since.
It would speak in support of this for the better
was there anyone here to speak in opposition to this Matt.
Seeing none gentleman to prove it.
We proved we have a second.
Second,
with a special yes, all right with us.
My thoughts were that
we're using the existing back wall of the House as a
benchmark.
>> Where it's not going to be any further into that required
setback, however
>> due to the date when this addition was made to the House
it doesn't appear that permit for a variance
so it's very Inc was sought approved for that condition
being that close to the back property line in the first
place.
Now I don't know if the rules were different back in the
1970's when that addition was doing.
But we're we're using.
That addition as a precedent to allow further expansion on to
the House, a similar distance away from the back property
line. But
how how confident are we that addition was
constructed with the approval of the county and in compliance
with whatever the county rules were at the time.
>> But my thinking on that in the county attorney can correct
me if I'm wrong and that is that we don't have there's a
little have a president or anything it's binding her on us
we take each individual matter as it comes before us and it's
just up to your good judgment whether this particular
application before us is is something that we should
approve my personal take on it is when something's been
sitting this long and nobody's complain when the government
hasn't stepped forward to say you've done something wrong.
I think the property owners kind of got a right to rely on
that that's that's just me.
>> I believe there's actually a statue to that actually as well
I believe that if its precursors I believe for a
second time around attorney.
Staff has been tough to get against government those in the
U.S..
But it is one in previous decision that we made some like
this where it's so early in the president is is so early from
when
proper records were kept in session that. Yeah that's kind
of what we've got.
So we have a motion and a second meeting that you want to
check it out.
Well, those in favor, aye aye oppose it.
The mission's joint.
>> Item number 3 is is a request for a variance from 6
and a half feet to a fee for fence and the R one a single
family dwelling district and the Montclair subdivision
located at 9 9892 Montclair circle. The applicant is
requesting to please 47 linear feet of 8 foot high privacy
fence along the East property line.
The Montclair homeowners Association has approved the
proposed 8 foot fencing and there have not been any prior
variances from the subject property and this concludes my
presence
and you have any questions for staff.
The applicant here.
On down.
>> You can tell us your name and not much from Bartow 9892
Montclair circle.
We have this year Sir so we're looking for just a little more
privacy backyard, you can see from the pictures here that my
my yard and the neighbors are the 2 highest in the
neighborhood. So when I send my back porch where he stands on
in his yard and it's very easy to see over the current fence,
giving a little privacy to myself and my family. So I know
rhe ways to improve this all the neighbors that we talked to
are across the street and the other side approval of this too
and as you can see the fence is not the most looking so we're
looking to also make sure that looks much nicer offense as
well.
Thank you, Sir, and Gentlemen.
>> We spoke to your neighbors, I'm just going to be
significantly higher tuition fee knows there's no. Didn't
hear about that person.
>> I spoke to one neighbor on the on the side of this faces
and he asked me I asked if he was an uproar and he said it's
kind of tall and he said see what the choices this
conversation I had with him.
In the questions.
Thank you Sir.
Anyway, the audience to speak in support of this meant.
Yes, Sir you could share with us your name and address
please.
My last name is Leon, you know the 2.98 a player.
Yes Sir we have next door neighbor.
The House is the one they see the opposite side.
He has a 6 foot fans which is really not 6 foot most of his
passes 5 and a half
which is a lot of nowhere.
And
if you want to bring it up to 6 feet which is what the Bible
say in the subdivision
it would increase have 4.
But on top of his fans, he planted them feel yes
which they grow for feed on top of his fence.
So he has about 8 and a half to 9 and a half to between 8 and a
half and 9 feet well private.
We're going to be as a precinct, you can see to that.
I've got pictures here to show you the speaking in support of
the application, no gas.
The cause of that just for our procedure that we had is there
any way also speak in support of the application.
I will do it.
I apologize, it's just we've got to step in and out to us by
the content.
He planted the ball better for privacy as I said.
He has a and B is about has grown.
Control is being going.
And is over 4 feet over the existing fence.
Sufficient privacy created by the vegetation right now.
I don't think it's necessary to build an edge with fans which
is
pretty big fans.
And you will love my view from my family room and from my
porch.
As I said now.
I can barely see the sky with the county.
And so I don't see how this creates more
privacy for him.
What I suggest it's changing the fans to bring the fans to
the right highs which is
approximately 6 feet so here again
he'll game.
Or more
with a new fence.
On top of the vegetation he already has.
At stake is sufficient.
And they food fans it's going to be all we need to look at
that
increase the value of property.
The only reason why the other neighbor probably agreed is
because
it is really nothing. He has the pool, the porch
or his chairs saying
the barbecue all of my sight
and not on their side so for them to look at a foot fans.
It's not a problem.
But for me it is.
What you think is or Gentlemen, any questions.
It show you a few tears.
>> This sets up like you said, and puts it up back up to 6
feet to understand most of education is also good
disappear because if you're putting new fence footers in
that it's going to kill the landscape as well.
Yes, I
can agree.
>> On the move in the because of the media grows all contract
and it comes to my staff in when he needs to trim and he
comes into my property cuts it from my side.
And it's also has a grocery store and that is a very narrow
passage for me. As you can see the bulk of the how high it is
from this view.
Look at the height of the covid this is what I see from my
family
and my porch.
This is what I'm looking at.
So now you add 2 more feet of fans.
And these are measured with that 2 of his fans how much you
know where that's 72 inches. It is now.
So my point is if you brings the fans up to a 6 foot high.
If he will I will not be able to see that.
>> What what is it that you wanted to see that you won't be
able to see
well I would like to sit on my porch and look at the sky.
But I can see it
to foreclosure plans.
And really questions. Yes, quick clarification question
for staff and me.
The first page.
>> This application references on the motion recommendation
section
when I approved continue references a height variance
from 6 in one half feet 8 feet so I'm led to believe that the
maximum allowable and with no variance is 6 and a half
correct. So we demonstrated that the height of that fence
is 5 and a half on his side.
An additional foot could be added to the defense
with no variance being necessary correct. Yes.
>> That's the new variants as well, I believe staff correct
and tomorrow you see 6 a 6 and a half it no it's 6 and a half
has been chosen.
>> Mister Mister little is is a few minutes ago when when
Mister Lombardo was chatting with us it said that that you
would be OK with it if the homeowners Association was OK
with it is that your memory of the conversation.
What you remember the converse
>> I've never been in favor of this never. My my apologies,
I understood it.
All right thank you Sir for your time thank you to anyone
else in the audience to speak against.
Mister chair motion to approve.
So we can have a discussion.
What's your proof conversation with a second.
Just for a second thoughts.
Something you always come back to
is
can the neighbors take their disputes.
>> Away from the board comes with a compromise on their own
that will not require the intervention of us.
As it stands.
Since 5 and a half feet.
Homeowners at 8.
That's an additional 2 and a half.
The homeowner can always reconstruct the fence and with
a high of 6 and half feet.
And we wouldn't even need to be involved in that and the other
neighbor
would have
one might not be a 100% satisfied with it, but
that would be that would be well within the home owner's
rights to have the maximum allowable
I'm thinking there might be room here for
the neighbors too have a discussion see it.
6 and a half would be an acceptable compromise height
for this event.
>> I do I agree it's we always a very very
I'm mindful of what neighbors say and what kuz you know she
said she gets the gamut of Greece in property values,
running that risk it's it's always that but having
neighbors talking to neighbors get along with neighbors.
They don't have to fight each other for Christmas parties,
but just as long as they can you know have some sort of
so I think it's a very good to pass up.
If you could please.
>> So so the question from from the board to you and this is
fully within your rights I think you're you're hearing who
knows how everybody is going to vote. But would you be open to
the idea we could we could continue to the end of this
meeting voting on this matter press. You can chat with your
neighbor maybe find a compromise.
And and it.
>> And what if you want to go ahead and consider and vote on
it now will do that I think it's like you to share a few
verbal points to what he said to us and with the Florida
coast. I thought I was going to rebuttal after his opposing
you.
Yeah, you're right that that just 3 minutes at most place
yeah to be very quick. So I just want to share a few things
to we don't always see, I'm a neighbor and I am I try to be
as kind as I can but
as you can see 2 I want to point to 2 things that we left
off there so. If you look at one the spot where does the
court my house that goes right into my kitchen. He's right
there with the Palm so again those pumps used to be 3 feet
taller and give me probably plenty of privacy until the
frosts hit them and they all come back to say that they fall
center and then my privacy is gone and that's what we're
trying to alleviate here now is that we have continuous privacy
as far as he's talking about to anyone how to vote again that
he seems he's totally before he likes about that but he want to
trim it. If by fences, hoping it won't be in his urine,
the more normal in Detroit a lot sizes will be there on his
side of the other thing too is we're only asking for I believe
it is 40 in I don't think that measurement for me I want to
say it's like 40 feet of of the 8 foot fence, so that takes it
just passed of courts. That just brings it to the like
freight, same halfway down the back yard so that Skyview that
he wants out of his. His back porch is still the hole.
The other half of the backyard. So it's it's not all the way
down to it I just want that privacy for my back porch and
the rest the art is back down to 6 and a half but it would
make sure you guys sell those details as well. Thank you Sir,
yes.
So we have on the table a motion to approve that's been
seconded John do you want you want to withdraw that motion of
you want to vote on it as it is
currently made.
>> The homeowner record that applicant and self requested
that we go ahead and vote.
That's the undercurrent to your motion to approve you want that
still to be voted on during what
you want to do something different.
We know the table
so proceed with it all right so we have a motion to table it's
been seconded to approve all in favor say aye.
You have 15 days or to appeal this matter. But after the
hearing or tomorrow, you can communicate with staff and no
help you with that process if that's something you'd like to
do.
Next batter.
>> Item number 4 is a request for high variance from 6 and a
half feet to 8 feet for fencing are when a single family
dwelling district and the lake shore subdivision located at 9
39 million drive, 10 letters of support were received from
surrounding neighbors, a code enforcement violation, 23 dash
2087 was issued for the structure resulting in the
necessity of variance and there have not been any prior
variances for the subject property.
This concludes my presentation.
>> One of the many questions for staff.
The applicant here.
We should come and and if you'd like to
we share with us a new name and address.
>> We knew it was totally 9.30 Magnolia drive a Toyota.
So the tense has already been constructed. It's shame shame
that I know is this is me my ways first hole. And after
Hurricane Nicole me and it's a perfect way so let's start over
you my guys, one of their offense really think anything
of it because we didn't have any to so
all right, let's go do this sotomayor's prior to that seen
here for the 8 foot because our property sits lower has seen
pictures it varies anywhere from 15 inches to almost 2 feet
lower areas. So I do make the fence, we were able to go out
her backyard actually enjoy it. For says this neighborhood and
so so you know where our cool there hanging on the back that
you can't really enjoy it.
One around the neighborhood papers saying hey we don't care
to enjoy it. It's fine.
>> There are many questions, I know you're going to ask is I
think the same thing because they have it up and I said
we're going to get better go ahead.
One 4940 sorry. We're showing a blocker that it was nothing was
received either. Good or bad.
>> The runners that will there be older it is being roiled the
summer and winter Springs. I really don't know. Roy I
don't know and you know no no no we don't House for now about
2 years and with their trainers don't really seem to talk to
they're just trying to keep themselves are over couple.
Whenever I was doing things virtually a solo.
So they do it for. They said, I don't care what came around to
go around and gets answers everything just
we're really approach to talk to.
So the only people can get but for renters are really the
issue and
it questions.
>> I can also confirm that the property with the virus does
not have a Holston thank you.
>> As you're about to speak in support of this matter
is there anyone here to speak in opposition to this.
Pleasure of the board to approve a second.
We have a motion to approve and a second all in favor, aye
opposed.
Enjoy your new sensor.
>> Items item number 5 is far too variance request. The first
request is for wall signs from one sign to to signs for us
fitness.
And the second variances for maximum allowable copy area.
>> And from 30 square feet to 280.66 square feet for a sign
in the sea to retail commercial district.
The subject property is in the Oxford place overlay district
which was adopted on 12/11/2018 subsequent to the construction
of the Plaza on the subject property
of the first request was to construct to watch signs.
For the U.S. fitness with the Knox replace overlay
requirement
of one law signed her tenant
the second request is for the subject property to increase
the allowable law signed that requirement from 30 square feet
per tenant
for a total of 10 for some reason I put it in here twice
because originally they had a 140 but they have to sign so it
each sign are going to be the same.
So it would be 280.66 square feet.
A variance request for the same Plaza was approved for from one
wall sign 2, 5, Ross signs for the floor and decor
to Ross signed total copy area from 90 square feet to 634.97
square feet.
And this concludes my presentation.
Thank you Gentlemen, any questions for staff.
It is the applicant here.
>> Would you please Sir which are with us your name and
address for the record.
>> Good evening. My name is Mark richly my address is 3790
beacon Ridgeway Florida
and as was mentioned this does seem like a very large request.
30 square feet can it is that a maximum a size 4 signs to the.
This history, this special district just was no it's the
Oxford Oxford, but is it is an historic district are just now.
Well, it is covertly so
>> excuse me served free continue what exactly is the
relationship to the business.
>> I represent the owner has an edge.
Winners to thank
want to show you exactly these signs that are posted.
So you say that they're they're not garish and they are clearly
within a portion of the building.
So was it mentioned a 140 square feet per sign for the
high 30 feet long.
And this is the top of the U.S., they have the Northeast
elevation facing a Northeast to.
Us highway state highway 4.38. And the bottom elevation is the
South east of the nation facing 2.
To Oxford world.
We say that they're very
totally
proportion to the building.
So for the is this was not within the Hudson.
Oxford road. District and they would be allowed 330 square
feet per
elevation because 2 square feet for one year for that building
for a judge
because they are in the you know it's for the road. So it's
clearly within that to your station and its mission there
was the variance granted for the
store for the show you that.
This is looking Southwest at the floor.
And the court.
We say the U.S. fitness on the far right.
If you were to look at 30 square feet which is the
maximum for the district regulations.
They for the rest so I o T
store front this grant the variance
is 40 far-right 24 square feet.
We'll see you can hardly read what it is that would be the
man that the larger than the maximum time allowed for the
best fit.
We'll spin this is set back from.
From the start for 36 us over 600 feet.
So that's well within
that that property and use a FOX 2 places the to the left.
And this setback, 300 feet from the street, typically if you
were to look up to
traditional some commercial setbacks where
of 2 square feet apart.
Responding to 2% back to the setback in commercials.
Watt is typically about 100 feet.
I thought for a front that's good. But first and you have a
60 foot wide maybe 65 parking area, then you have sidewalk
here and then you have to build and that this is a typical
commercial setback.
2 square feet per year for that and that's a pretty decent
observation and visibility factor when you get back 600
feet.
And you only have 30 square feet because it's in the
special district say the complications, it is going.
He's going to be dealing with you know, I'm in Oxford road.
Special district
is has been a sort of part 2 in courage.
Businesses that are on Oxford Street.
Show that they are the activities that principle years
for motel uses and so forth and
that's why it's critical that this doesn't have
visibility from that
to show that this is a mixed use Street showing this to this
building.
At that location.
We show you that is what it looks like from.
Sure, if you were starting to kind of getting a little bit of
leeway over the normal time if we can start moving towards.
Inclusion please show these final
pictures of their own Street you pictures.
This is
4.36 the entrance into the
shopping center.
This looks like it's a pretty successful. Area it is less
than optimal.
The fact
I I've been planning for 40 years and I would call it a
blighted area and that's why it created to
it's over ties to the construction and the
development of officer.
It's important that these building this building
specially has viability and viability is going to be that
they need to be visible from the street or a funny purposes
and also for the indication purposes. So I will share it
with others have been by the side of the scene from I
04:36PM from what I love are also from that Oxford road to
those at the
basic care.
Public right of way that surround this property that.
So huge it's going to be critical for identification and
we fight other questions.
>> What can we please put up on the screen the 6 short answers
to various criteria. Questions that slide.
We have a signed it.
It's just an urgent that okay, it's in my agenda packet that
everybody.
I have a question about something one of the short
answer is that you put one of those questions.
You said, over the years this building obviously has not been
economically viable because of its location and placement on
this very regular lot.
Excuse me the that that sounds to me.
Not like you giving an opinion that sounds like an assertion
of fact
what evidence do you have that that property is not
economically viable because of the signage well it.
It was developed in 1988.
Back in 88.
There have been 3 separate entities in there. Since 1988.
The last was a vacancy for several months.
It's a difficult location because of its and severe
setback from especially.
2, 4, 6,
And it hurt a lot.
Until the
>> the store next door the floor, so I was there and it's
no generated quite a bit of traffic. But if you look at
that the parking lot in that area. I learned very dark
parking lot. There are signs of an underdeveloped.
Responses to the market and so forth so alright know helps
with visibility but also economic viability.
>> 3 separate tenants over the span of 35 years doesn't sound
like an excessive amount we turn over to me however I will
we move on to another question.
It's this
property was so economically not viable to you
is this not something that you were leasing agent from your
commercial real estate company would have we sat down with you
and at the time they prepare the pro, forma with you that
that would have been
disclose to you at that time I was told that the tenant.
>> That when they were working with the owner of the property,
they were told that the square footage was 2 square feet per
than your foot which it is all the way around them except for
those properties facing Oxford road.
So yeah going from 30 square feet to 330 square feet is a
dramatic reduction in what they had anticipated the signage.
>> I don't think you're answering quite the question
that I'm asking the question I'm asking is it seems like
your client
lease the property
based on the condition of it being as you claim that
comically unviable
and it's
but it was your clients choice to lease the property at the
price that was quoted to him by the property owner.
Should the
economic non viability of the property not been baked into
the price.
>> I was that those those negotiations but all I know is
in terms of signage
10 and was it
promise that they would be able to conform to the signage which
was in that area to square feet for
when your foot frontage
I never I knew that
only because I was first detected by staff when they
said that this is no this isn't the expert road district in the
only a 30 square feet per tent.
Those expectations that the tenant had were drastically
reduced because the.
So whenever did their due diligence to check in with the
exact
provisions the Oxford road.
Traditions are I'm not unsympathetic to I see the
benefit of a viable.
>> Tax generating business in the space I just had questions
about your choice of language you should know
he's one of the questions.
Thank you. Sir
is there anyone in the audience to the law who also like to
speak in support
of this minute.
Seeing none is there anyone to speak in opposition.
Gentleman of leisure.
Make a motion to deny.
I'm not seconded it.
The matter dies for lack of a second which means denied.
And as I said the other person's you do have the
ability within 15 days to appeal this or after the
meeting with tomorrow's step in helping with the snow. I would
like to make a motion of my my own mind in Iowa. Yeah, you're
at you know makes you're absolutely right. My apologies.
Sergeant sorry, yeah, I would like to make a motion to
approve.
Sir second.
The matter than fails for lack of a second.
So as I was saying, I'm sorry, but you do have the ability to
appeal within 15 days staff can help you with that process
should look.
This matter.
>> Number 6 is a request for a high variance from 3 feet to 4
and a half before fence in the car when a single family
dwelling district and the Lakewood shore second edition
subdivision located at 2.53 summer would trail. The
proposed fence will be 4 and a half feet in height and
exceeding the height requirement by one and a half
the one and a half foot excuse me propose privacy fence will
be approximately 0 feet from the sidewalk.
And 8 and a half feet from the edge of pavement. They're not
been any prior variances for the subject property or
building permits for the existing law this concludes my
presentation.
Thank you Gentlemen, any questions
we established
seeing those yeah here
come on down if you'd like to you don't have to pay.
>> I do have a question for staff or the this is making its
way down here we usually stroll down no prior variances for the
subject property or permits for the existing law.
When a variance or building permit for the wall have been
necessary.
>> Should there be one for them, I don't know how tall
that the wall is.
>> If it's only 3 feet in height, if it's if it exceeds 3
feet high and yes.
>> We have a picture of the ball that's system
that is and why.
Residents that's the next Street over.
Spartans
so several of them
is an aerial photograph, your property, certain yet.
Yes,
well let's do this stuff you okay with that since instep
isn't sure. You when the gentleman is an issue you can
as you can.
But your question and that that's OK.
Yes, Sir please if you give us your name and address for the
record and a beard. 2, 5, 3, sum would trail.
And I just want to we have that wall on the front that's 4 foot
6.
It was there.
When we bought the House 5 years.
So we just want to match that aside it's its most peas 36
inches
to the height of the wall, so it all kind of plants.
You know that setback at 25 feet.
Yes, that's the.
Staff is the best in the business.
Yeah there's the wall
as Casey took a hit.
Matches on the right side.
25 feet to spot the tree.
It's one of just put a little finesse
so it matches the top us to step down
36 inches, you know.
>> Mister Imus I'm sorry I'm interrupting use your house one
of the left with a blue truck is in the U.S. on the left OK
got history.
The effort is going.
>> So yeah, we just want to match the wall STA,
which is 4 foot 6.
And the U.S.. The setback is 36 inches. It's tight
so I want to bring it up to match the top
25 foot setback.
Anything else you know, that's it generally of any questions
for the applicant.
>> Thank you for your time, Sir I think yes I think we feel
like 2 questions actually
if you could put the street view for the backup still have
it with us.
I looked at it earlier it looks like if you continue the fence
along that line that you proposed it's going to take out
that tree you have in your front yard.
Were you aware of that yes on the property, so just that
close to it.
Well if you're not going to know
and I mean it's dying, but it's got a ways to go so okay,
and also because as you see here tonight because it's so
important. I didn't see it in the application any mention of
neighbors support or opposition.
Could you speak to that.
Did you did you speak to your neighbors where this road we
were not allowed to.
The witness protection.
>> We're restricting order on him so
a new world that we have it on them. Oh my
okay to be a citizen can talk about. I was close so you were.
And so that's what you on the spot, OK that's that.
It was a show.
We don't want to thank you Sir. Apologies of the union there's
no
is there anyone the audience to speak in support
of this Matt
anyone in the audience in opposition to this.
Gentlemen, your pleasure.
>> So you've.
Motion to approve so we can have a discussion.
Motion approved seconded
so with that surprised bombshell does that change
anything for us.
Given to each of us makes their own determinations based on the
best for us we're going to see it.
>> The county is has got to do is in part to be now shall be
mailed out they knew this was happening.
And likes of anything legal between them and their return
to their neighbors.
There is a section where he says you can write in and say
no or yes to see that there was nothing there and they were
County this very good job of setting up businesses.
>> And I never see again calls and even sometimes they'll call
and just double check what's going on. But I think so
I agree with some of that is that if you have a problem with
that show up. Yes, I did I don't think the silence which
approved presume anything from silence
for all, we know they mean for fans between and and and he's
paying for it sometimes Golden so
anything else in open up for a vote.
All those in favor. Aye the motion motion to approve just
the start. I was you I'd be also son of a sudden I see is
well it passes.
Best of luck H 2 B appreciate you saying that tree.
>> I just want to know when I put the address and property
appraiser and its Street view. It showed up that picture so
it's a glitch that must be in property appraiser Evans.
They call me.
>> What do you know, I know that
you know the show in which
we know that House us part.
Better up next what.
>> Good evening for the record Hillary Payton planning
development item number 7 is a variance request for 2, 9,
7, bull and drive located in the Seminole Terrell
subdivisions requests for a side street setback reduction
from 25 feet to 10 feet for privacy Benton R one double a
zoning district.
The subject property is a corner lot has to front yard
setback purposes the front of the House faces bowl and drive
the Caribbean have a new site is where the variance is being
sought the request is to bring into compliance, the
construction of a 6 foot vinyl privacy fence encroaching 15 PM
to the side streets upon the privacy fence is 21 feet from
the edge of pavement is without a sidewalk to encroach upon
check-in Jerry has no objection to the placement of the fence
of the releases a visibility, a code enforcement violation
number 23 dash 3, 7, was issued for the structure resulting in
the necessity this variance this concludes my presentation
of the request.
Thank you and gentlemen any questions for staff.
>> No, but a clarification for you. Mister had a way because
you may or may not realize this as I was reviewing this I had
to do a double take because this looks so similar. Tonight
we had on the agenda from last month.
Another property that was a few blocks away where the lot
configuration was almost identical.
It is a different property.
I appreciate you looking at that.
>> Because we discussed some things mistakes that he's all
right. Well is yeah, we just want to answer.
When the state your name and address for the record when you
get up there.
>> It is John Carlson Clemente tonight and 7 bone dry. We do
for that
the property believe 3 years ago. I love to the contact with
somebody but the fence a thought that other apart from
its didn't know that the setback was required. And it
was just a follow the neighbor behind the defense. I'm just
all the all the way to the back of the House. So we've got
about 10 feet. If it were to be 25 to get in the way that well
and it would look really ugly. You for the rest of the
neighborhood. So just looking for one the fact labor, and
just a little privacy fence, nothing major.
>> I would tell you if we had a nickel for every time someone
came into the company told me.
Yeah, I understand your situation gentleman questions
for the applicant.
Is you know Sir. Thank you for your time, thank you
is when the audience to speak in support of this
seeing none is there anyone in the audience to speak in
opposition.
Seeing none.
Gentlemen is there a motion to approve second. We have a
motion to approve and a second all those in favor say aye
post.
Good.
>> Item number 8 is a variance request for 2348 green city
place look in the Chapman pines subdivision the request for a
side street setback reduction from 20 to 5 feet for privacy
fence and our would be the zoning district. The subject
properties affront to its a corner lot and has 2 front
yards for setback purposes, the front of the House faces great
Symphony place the tranquil spruce wayside is where the
variance is being sought.
The request is to bring into compliance to construction of a
6 foot vinyl privacy fence, 15 feet into the side streets per
the privacy fence is 5 feet from the sidewalk in
approximately 17 feet from the edge of pavement. Traffic
engineering is the objection to the placement of the fences are
really say this ability the proposed privacy fence
encroaches into a 10 foot utility easement a building
permit will be required to meet the criteria for placement
within estoppel letter this concludes my presentation of
the questions.
>> Thank you, madam gentleman any questions for staff.
Once again, not a question but additional information.
>> The application did reference another house in the
subdivision 2314 it hardest place I got a response from
staff today that a 5 foot variance was granted to that
property in February of 2022.
Additionally there was a another property in the same
subdivision 2356 screen simply place. In October of 2022.
This poor gave them a a 5 foot variance again for us.
I will be another one next month as well.
Thank you, okay.
>> Sir please future your name and address for the record
president ricas 2, 3, 4, 8, recently place Florida 3,
2, substrate
when you have for us all. I think you know $0.15 for
every time you know. We built the fence, I just you know what
that neighborhood is a 24 to Anthony.
I love the way the fence. Look so luckily, I built a
fence and then I got a notice that have the new Florida,
some sort. So I had to do her thing here so I applied for it
and then I just
and that happens a lot.
Anything else Sir thank you Gentlemen.
Thank you, anyone in the audience to speak in support.
Seeing no, there's just things are thinning out here anyone to
speak in opposition.
Seeing none. Their motion. Mister chair motion to approve
the motion to approve their second second second all in
favor, aye first.
All right Sir, thank you very much.
November, 9.
>> Item number 9 a spiritual quest for 97 '09 barely grow
located in the mcneil's Orange Bowl subdivision the request is
for a production from 30 feet to 5.4 9 feet and a South side
yard setback reduction from 10 feet to 1.9 1 fee for shed in
the R one double a zoning district. The request is to
bring into compliance, the construction of a 262 square
foot shed that encourages 8.0 9 feet into the south side yard
setback in 24.5 1 C and to the rear yard setback on June 2620
23 this item was heard before this board and grant a variance
is based on the site plan previously received a 6.8 feet
in the rear and 2.1 9 feet on the south side yard
after the permit was submitted as chairman of the structures
actually closer than originally approved for resulting in a
necessity of these additional variance code enforcement
violation number 22 dash 8, 7, was issued for the structure
resulting in the necessity of these variances this concludes
my presentation.
Any questions for Senate.
All right you have to come here.
Please come on down.
>> If you could please share your name and address for the
record, I mean it it would be just in there. It is in 97
settlement badly, Trump.
Martinez had 2 nice is your 9th year the Grove.
What you would want to share with us. She is what I can we
measure on the last time we were here so we have every do
it again.
Well so it's coming to a state that. Any questions you have to
cut.
Thank you for your time, thank you is there anyone in the
audience to speak in support of this Matt
seeing none anyone in opposition.
Seeing none is there a motion to approve a second.
We have a motion to approve a second all in favor, aye
opposed all right enjoy it.
Item number 10 is where and requests for 52.
>> 5520. Race for the state. Greenway located is trails
subdivision the request is for that type areas from 6 and a
half p to 7 feet for privacy fence and the bear goalie plan
development.
The request is for a fun time, variance six-and-a-half 7 feet
for approximately a 118 when your feet, a wood fence,
the proposed privacy fence encroaches into a utility
easement that building permitting will be required to
meet the criteria for placement of the dust off a letter,
this concludes my presentation on the front foot.
They come in many questions for staff.
Seeing none is the applicant here.
Women do Sir.
We share with us your name and address for the record.
>> To to quickly move up a little.
We have for Sir
that people.
The 7 foot fence.
With covid 7
want to have
taking them and doing to do what we can do.
And having you know.
I have a new ripple.
The Aleppo the company come in and play in time for the people
come in to do it and do what you just what that relate to.
If you look at want to get up if you can see
the Fed.
When you put in the pick of the 2, then they.
The picture then another one from the bad. You can see 2
shot.
This pitch and he is yet to
to give you an idea of my neighborhood, the people.
We really don't care about the top of the food that been
damaged.
You're the Columbia will be in play.
It could get to pick up that fence.
That like if I had to to put 58.
Some time to avoid that because of the
because could get the lay of the land that I have a 7 foot
fence because it would be even in the eye and something like
that.
One time too.
Banks says.
>> Germany question should have a cat.
Thank you for your time Sir, thank you.
Anybody
in the audience to speak in support
seeing none if you are just 2 of the kicks it.
It is to do it in office. In here to speak in opposition
to the Senate
seeing none is there a motion Mister chair motion to approve.
Second second the motion to approve and a second all in
favor. I post
the fence.
>> Item number 11 is a variance request for 2949, they had run
located in the what subdivision their buses rear yard setback
reduction from 33 to 15 feet and an East Side yard setback
production from Saint Pete AP.
Patio addition R one double a zoning district buses to
construct a covered patio addition 15 feet into the
river, it's affects up to the east Side yard setback property
about the conservation and racetracks in a retention and
drainage tracked
and the states that a local Woods, homeowners Association
has approved the request in a letter of support has been
received from the directly affected neighbor. This
concludes my presentation bill for a question.
Thank you Gentlemen, any questions for staff.
>> I would presume you the applicants are. I mean that was
the contractor.
Would you please share with us your name and address for the
rest of the siege on to 1400 so well raking up Park Boulevard
long but yes, Sir we have for us just wanted to point out
there, especially in that photo of the discovery.
It is the House were speaking of that IM house.
The current setback is to the back of the House but 30 pushed
to the back but nothing can be at it.
The reason. We're we're we're going to go halfway in
and still leave another 15 feet and the only reason we're
asking for the small side setback is because that House
is build
on an angle on that lot
in order to stay even with the House.
Then that's that the House is into that that setback also
so we're just trying to keep it straight and if you'll notice
of course, the next door neighbor had something consent
letter and then the other 2 neighbors beside them received
the same thing that
we're trying to get here
and behind the House obviously the Greenville
to the right side of the houses agree built for like 500 feet
to the next House.
So it really.
The people on the side of her okay with that nobody behind or
on the other side.
>> The gentleman questions Sir, your relationship to the
homeowners is for the record what I'm sorry, what is your
relationship to the homeowners are your contractor, we have a
contract to thank you.
Thank you Sir for that.
Anyone here to speak in support of the applicant
seeing no there's anyone to speak in opposition seen a
motion
with her second motion to approve a second all in favor
aye post
go for it.
I say we have on the agenda is minutes to we have a motion.
Motion to accept the minutes as submitted with the one
correction that I submitted to staff.
What was it that
that was one word.
What to do with it you can trust me to just a second.
The motion a second all in favor.
I oppose it.
That is approved.
We are adjourned, thank you all so very much thank you for
putting up with me.
Thank you thank you thank you.
Yeah.