>> Me too.
>> There.
The,
>> we go to
we've
>> too.
>> Jerry said then we're going to go ahead and get started and
call the September 14th.
Seminole County magistrate hearings
to order one.
The way this works it's a rather informal process,
but still serious. You all will recall that based on
appearance. So it's really based on order. So if you do
have an agenda in front of you it's not based on the order of
the agenda. So you will be called just be patient and we
try to do it based on when you get here.
So what will happen is when you're in your case is called
Joe come to the table you need to speak clearly into the mic
the county will present its case first.
You will then have an opportunity to present your
case if you want to cross examine any of the county's
witnesses you can do that at that time the county can also
ask questions of you like I said it's a it's a rather
informal way of doing it there's not the the typical
procedural requirements of a court proceeding. However we do
have some rules. You know you can't get out of line. So.
Once the county presents their case you present your case I
make a decision here today as to whether there has been a
violation and if there is a violation you stand to have a
fine imposed of up to $250 a day. If you're here for a
first-time violation and up to $500 a day if you're here for a
repeat violation. If you do not come into compliance with at
the time that I order there also be a compliance hearing
that is set for after this hearing to determine whether
you have in fact coming into compliance if you have you do
not have to come but if you have not the air presence will
be expected.
We're going to go ahead and get started and call the first
case.
When it's yeah let's go ahead and swear witnesses and I miss
where the county witnesses in and the first case witnesses I
like to swear the witnesses in prior to their case. Let's go
ahead and call Jonathan and Ashley fan, 2362 C D s M
and then we will if fields raise your right hand and then
also for the county and at the same time.
Do you solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you're about to
give to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth
can have a seat.
>> This is
>> for the record that is Vicki Hathaway building inspector for
Seminole County building.
This presented a copy this presentation to the clerk who
requested to be entered into the record case number 2362 C E
S M for the property located at 20 East first Street Julio do
which is owned by Jonathan and Ashley then
the violation charges Seminole County code chapter, 40
appendix a section one of 5.1
description the violation installation of above ground
pool electrical potential whole House rewire with required
permits.
The initial inspection happened on one 25 to 23 notice to the
respondent went out on the 26 of 23 compliance dates were
given it with a 2, 2, 2, 9, 23, 3, 7, 23 5 2423 in 6, 9,
23 follow those inspections you can see they're below.
The follow-up inspections via computer result so they were
inspected of the reinspection the violation remains on the
property.
The initial inspection was down on one 2523 innings to the
responded on 2623.
Follow-up inspections of her show.
And on the next screen.
It shows. Jonathan Ashley says the owners of the property on
the property appraiser's website.
This is a this is a copy of the post hearing that was done on a
29 of 23.
This is a picture of the garage filling with electrical taken
on one 23.
Next page for the next slide shows the wanderer and wiring
and meter taken on one 18 of 23.
The above ground pool that you can see from the image dated on
one to 23.
Which was discussed by the inspector that was on site.
This here is a copy of the final letter posted on the
property on 5.12 of 23 due to return to mail.
This next slide is the the photographs the violation taken
on 9.13 of 23.
The next slide shows the actual permitting process screen where
the
the owner of the property is come in today application was
received 5.22 of 23 for the above ground pool
which shows permit number 2381, 66, currently in approve status
pending issuance do to septic and permit payment.
A permit for the outdoor fireplace was issued today all
right before this hearing.
And we've also got one for the electrical permit unrelated to
the electric work included in this violation 21 permit 21 1,
4, 4, 1, 6, 0, is issued alteration permit for roof
framing also related to this violation.
This is a copy of the AP status which is approved pending
septic permit approval and payment.
This is a slide that shows chapter 40 penix regarding the
permitting process.
And the next slide shows Jonathan Ashley fanned the
recommendation is based on the testimony and evidence
presented in this case number 2362 CSM it's determined that
the respondents are the record owners of the property located
at 20 East first Street Julio to and Seminole County as
determined by the property appraiser's records and
possession and control the property in violation of
Seminole County code chapter, 40 appendix a section one of
5.1.
It is further recommended that the special magistrate ordered
the respondents to correct the violation on or before
September 17th of 2023 in order to correct the violation the
respondent shall obtain the required permits for the cited
violations. If the respondents do not comply with the order
fine of $50 be imposed for each day, the violation continues
orange repeated after compliance, the respondent must
contact the inspector to verify compliance. This concludes my
presentation. Okay did you mean November 17th for coming.
Sorry, yeah that is correct. No problem when Jude like to
submit. This electronic case filing to the record yes,
okay, do you have any objection to the light trying case file
that's been presented to you to be submitted into the record as
evidence mounts thank you
do you have anything you'd like to add.
>> I don't think I'm like is turning this a waste place but
they're closed today.
>> The septic.
Do you have any concerns with what the county has suggested
as far as the compliance date of November 17th.
>> We all want to turn us into tomorrow that says back up to
the county until I get my permits has.
>> Okay so you you feel like you can come into compliance by
November 17th. The time that they've suggested.
>> I hope so okay if not I have no faith in my County.
>> I will say we don't have any control over the Health
Department and I know they have them back to so they are behind
on their inspections. So if they're behind on their
inspections. Do we think that November 17th is reasonable.
I gave Mister Fenn my business card and ask him to please
contact me if he runs into any snags. So we can work together
and I can make notes of it to work and get him back in here
to request additional time if that doesn't happen
okay,
I can't guess because they I know they are backed up.
So if the compliance.
It is by November 17th that's the day after the next meeting
so we would be into December 14th for compliance hearing
anyway, so if something occurred there is a month time
in there that I could do with that I have that time OK.
So I'm gonna go ahead and find that you have been properly
noticed to be here today that you are president you have
participated
that there is sufficient evidence to show that you are
in violation of
Seminole County code chapter, 40 appendix a section one oh
5.1.
For failure to obtain the necessary for building permits.
I'm going to order that you bring the property into
compliance by receiving the proper building permits by
11/17/2023 or incur a fine in the amount of $50 a day for
each and every day thereafter that you're not in compliance
and it also set the compliance hearing for 12/14/2023. So if
you aren't in compliance, you would need to come back.
But like the county has suggested for some reason there
is a problem with the Health Department is not a problem of
yours then we can certainly work with you on that time
period at that December hearing this from okay, yes ma'am thank
you thank you.
See what's call our next case 2361 C E S M Alan J and Sandra
T France.
MS, services France to go ahead and raise your right hand that
no no you don't have it doesn't please no please do solemnly
swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the
truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Yes,
thank you.
Okay, okay for the record that was Vicky halfway building
inspector for Seminole County building this is in regards to
case number 2361 CSM Allan and Sandra France at 700 East
Osceola road Seminole County Florida violation charge
Seminole County code chapter, 40 appendix a section one oh
5.1
description of the violations are following here installation
of multiple structures with electric shipping container and
accessory structure.
And gate with electrical without the required permits.
This next slide here that shows a case summary as follows the
initial inspection was done on 3, 7, 23 notice to the
respondent was given on 3, 8, of 23 they get in compliance
dates for 3 2223 for 1123 5 1223 6 to 23 7 1023. Follow-up
inspection showed both on site and via computer results of the
inspection the violations still remain on the property.
This is a screenshot from the property appraiser's website
showing that these are the owners, I'm Allan and Sandra
France are the record owners of the property.
Following photograph shows posted the notice for this
hearing on this property that was down 8.29 of 23.
This is a photograph of the multiple sensory structures
taken on 3, 3, 23 which the second Photo here is kind of
hard to see there's a there that was reported.
A copy of the gates with electric or solar panels take
and that is not permitted as well that was down on 3 3 of
23.
Multiple structures again that are shown but the same slide.
Again another eye picture of the gate with the electorate
taking on 6 2623.
This next slide is an aerial image showing multiple
structures added since won 21 of 21 the next 3 slide show
aerial images depicting the multiple structures added to
the property.
And again the same size again.
And again on 1218 of 22.
Here's a picture of the gate violation that was done on 9.13
of 20 through the 3 that still remains
and one of the structures that are there and you can see we're
in the first slide where there's a right track there
seems to be some type of Barnard type structure there.
Next slide.
This is a screen that shows the permitting process. No permits
or apply for issued to correct the violations
the permit application 23 7, 5, 9, 7, was received on 5 1123
for metal carport, which has since been removed from the
property from a follow-up inspection.
This is a copy of the Seminole County chapter 40 appendix a
regarding the violations that are in violation of
the next slide shows the recommendations based on the
testimony and evidence presented in this case number
2322, or 2361 C E S M
is determined that the respondents are the record
owners of the property located at 700 East Osceola road Geneva
in Seminole County as determined by the property
appraiser's records in possession or control the
property and is in violation of Seminole County code chapter,
40 appendix a section one of 5.1.
The following slide here is further recommended that the
special magistrate ordered the responders to correct the
violations on or before November 17th of 2023.
In order to correct the violations respondent shall
obtain the required permits for the cited violations at the
respondents do not comply with the order a fine of $50 will be
imposed for each day, the violations continue or repeated
after compliance. The respondents must contact the
inspector to verify compliance. This concludes my presentation
K would you like to enter the electronic filing records.
Do you have any objection to the electronic file which has
been presented to you and shown on the screen being placed in
the record. Yeah, thank you.
I got a question give his paper.
OK Rob the place in 2000 I'm not sure what that paper is can
you.
When I'm done with this.
I would like the county to see it to them if you could
we've got
can you tell me that I have to have permits for that was there
before a lot.
It's here for these that are showing up in May show a
description of the extra features can I yes, let me see
that these are extra features of the property appraiser is
separate from our office and they do go out and collect
information in order to tax the properties for every structure
they have on there.
And those are visual yes, or visual inspections.
Just in you can go ahead and have a seat now get this back
to you but
this
but just because the property appraiser has pick something up
when they are praising a piece of property doesn't necessarily
mean that there is a permit for and your system correct that is
awful for now to talk about it. That is the years later that is
correct. Sir, yes, Sir, you know you're always responsible
for making sure that the the structures on the property have
permits
regardless it and it is part of your due diligence when you buy
a piece of property to make sure that all of the structures
have permits.
And then it's also your responsibility to if you if you
purchased it in 2000 yeah, there are some new structures I
think showing that the county should I put the car port and
we took it that okay because I went upstairs is only good
thing.
Given higher and a look at that age that I didn't need to
pursue one got back because they were there at about the
property.
I know, yeah I times different I'm sorry that you were told
that that
that's not
accurate if you have a piece of property, you're responsible
for making sure what that from the time you purchase said that
everything on it has that the necessary permits and then
thereafter you are responsible for those permits.
I I can and must back to you.
So the county has suggested that you obtain the necessary
permits by November. 17th for all of the various violations.
Do you have the ability to is that reasonable to you I am.
>> Deal with them Fo far about the carport, they got their
certified wrong turn and they refused.
Okay and now I've got
we don't really know, I got there into an engineering
company
try to get drawings to they haven't gotten back to me.
>> The peso is many structures of as our unpermitted on the
property is it reasonable for them to be able to get all of
those steeply since there is no are there any Health Department
requirements related to those my last discussion I had with
Mister France was that they were going to remove the barns.
So that was one option there and then at that point it
stopped the communication with me I haven't talked to him,
I've been out there. And usually when people see me they
want to find out what are you doing why are you here to find
out where we out with the process do you need more time
are we taking them down or you keep it in my car, any what
what are you doing they did remove the metal cart which was
new
they're in the permitting process about which I said you
come you if you're in the permitting process you could
elected there can get it done.
Otherwise take it down and start over with the permit its
it fastest way to resolve the issue. I don't know second
happen, I mean, I'm not them. I can't speak for them that
would the question that needs certainly I just wanted to make
sure that
as far as what you know once everything is submitted.
If the county
be able to its complete if the county could process it
sufficiently it's complete and we have everything we need and
there's no questions that we have to come back and wait on.
We're pretty efficient about that I can usually show the
turnaround times are literally within 2 to 3 days, okay,
okay, good to know.
So what the county is is explaining is that you have to
be on the ball with this you have to be the one that's
responsible. And when these cases come in front of me I
typically am I'm working with you if you're working with the
county and so in my mind it's important that you keep up that
communication and you continue 2 if you have to call her every
day and make sure that you are doing what you're supposed to
be doing that's what is key here to making sure that this
is going to be successful.
If you don't have a date other than the November 17th. That's
sounds reasonable to you
then I'm going to go ahead and order the November 17th date
but I will is there anything else that you want to have and
you know, he's having trouble with her.
>> She started this of trying to get the engineering company
to give me joy.
I finally got home back to the day that should work to get
ready to go.
Well in this order will judge said you know I I after hearing
today, I know I got nothing.
>> But the order may help you some to let them know that this
is urgent this isn't something that you really need their
assistance. As long as you maintain communication. 100%.
I can show leniency on my end as well, but you have to
maintain the communication you can just not contact if you're
having issues
we do understand yes, okay to get anything else that you want
to add before I make a ruling know okay.
I'm going to go ahead and rule that you are properly noticed
to be here today that you are here in that you have
participated sufficiently in the process, the sufficient
evidence has been provided by the county to show that you are
in violation of Seminole County code chapter, 40 appendix a
section one oh 5.1.
I mean a word or that the property that be brought into
compliance by obtaining all the necessary permits for removal
of the structures. By 11/17/2023. And if you do not
do that that right the I find in the amount of $50 a day will
be imposed against the property and will run each and every day
until you do come into compliance and I'm also going
to order that you come back for compliance hearing on
12/14/2023. If you are not in compliance. That will show on
your order so you don't have to write that down it will show on
the order that you receive and you can at that time if for
some reason
you couldn't get everything done in time and for some
reason that there's
some bling box because of other people that are dealing with,
but you have remained in contact with the county at all
times than not that December 14th hearing I can certainly
work with you.
Okay the next case is Thomas Carper a junior 20 to one o 3 C
E S M
Mister Cartwright if you raise your right hand do solemnly
swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the
truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
>> Okay for the record, I'm I'm going to ask that this be
entered into the record for the carpet
the this is the key Hathaway building inspector I presented
a copy this presentation to the clerk are requested to be
entered into record case number 20 to one of 3 CS in for the
property located 5675 deer pass Lane which is owned by Thomas J
quite right to your family should charge Seminole County
code chapter, 40 in the next section one of 5.1
description the violations are remodel of an interior of the
garage into an apartment, including plumbing and
electrical hvac spray foam insulation, new windows and
doors, a large metal building, the Carr port, shipping
containers and modification a swimming pool without the
required permits.
This next slide shows the Thomas Jay core right junior is
the property owner of the property.
The next slide shows one of the violations here the carport
that was taken 5, 3, of 22.
Next slide shows the interior of the car and that we have
here the back and that was taken 5, 3, of 22.
Get interior doors to the apartment above the garage
apartment.
A copy or a picture of the hvac they that was taken on 5,
3, of 22,
interior different interior. Kitchen area pictures that were
taken on 5, 3,
shows the laundrie here and the structure of the inside I'm 5,
3, of 22.
We just various different pictures of the inside of the
structure.
Next slide shows a metal building that was taken on 5,
3, of 22.
This was a pull area that was somewhat modest I Don 5,
3, of 22 the pictures were taken. He's a lot of my
pictures, I'm going off of another inspectors pictures
that we had.
This is the spray foam that was taken on 5, 3, of 22 for the
insulation.
And a copy of the difference. Photographs of the violations
of the different barns and sheds that are out there in the
picture of the House.
This was on taking on 12 7 of 22.
That's right here shows the screen shows application for
the carport metal building electric or saved on a 29 of
22.
These are permits 22 1, 4, 9, 2, 7, 20 to 1.9 to 5 these
permits are currently on hold pending the septic permit
septic approach also he currently is in here asking for
additional time
because of the septic system that we have and I he's been in
touch with those continuously.
It shows other permits hear that word and for issues for
parents for demo 2 sheds and busy though that was 2334 24
permit number 22 1, 4, 9, 2, 2, is issued fence permit not part
of the violation.
The next slide is the plan tracking information to prove
that was on line, 16 of 22 currently way awaiting the
Health Department the day to apply for was a 29 to 22.
This concludes my presentation and again this is a matter of
waiting on the health Department to his head and a
private vendor to come in to get movin instead of waiting on
the health Department okay.
>> The county has requested that their electronic case file
be presented into the record for evidence to have any
objection know IM okay. Let me ask a couple questions before
you go so this this case already has an existing order.
Yes, ma'am and and that that order was interred.
I don't.
My apologies, no you're fine.
>> March 8th of 2023 the special magistrate. Ordered the
Knicks in compliance date of August 10th of 2023 an
affidavit and not compliant was filed by the inspector after
inspection on August 10th of 2022 for 3 2023. Respondent has
requested additional time to comply.
We're currently recommending maybe another 60 days
based on the fact that.
>> The septic system we're kind of at their mercy right now all
those permits are sitting on hold status than they've been
on hold status.
Okay,
so
when they go ahead and hear from you then Sir.
>> So I have the keys. The other day we have now have the
set the comment finally for the repair so we have to we had to
get a repair permit before we can get than the notice of.
We don't need a permit for the letter the letter from reading
a repair because people about House from have septic
modification and 2010 and they never got a final inspection on
it so that is what is really delay this whole process.
So House or scientists they went out finally got the county
for the Health Department moving a little bit. But
they're still very slow. I have an e-mail at I 40 Vicki
worthy subject people say they'll be there within the
next 2 weeks
to install a new septic. If they show up on time and
everything happens and Health Department gets inspected prior
to we should be fine with November. If that's the name,
however you see this is taking a year a year to get this
person for the Health Department.
>> And that unfortunately is is kind of what and the
construction industry is doing right now so okay, I am if
you're OK with the November 17th date the county has
testified that you're working with her. That's more than I
can ask that's the biggest thing I think as long as you
remain in communication with the county so that they know
where you are that's going to help the entire process go
faster.
Okay, so all. Go ahead an order that you are here for this
special request to seek a continuance or an extension of
time in your case.
20 to one o 3 C S
I'm going to extend your compliance state November 17th.
And I'm also going to
set your compliance hearing for December 14th.
So if you are in compliance of that time you will not need to
come back if you are not then we certainly will need to have
Communications as to why there are so concerns out there,
but that the extension be November 17th with a hearing
date not being to almost a month later, it doesn't mean go
ahead and take that month but there you're obviously is an
issue we will we will certainly deal with it. Everything else
that was in the original order as far as the number the amount
of penalty will remain in effect and okay. Thank you
thank you.
Thank you.
Okay with
we'll go ahead and continue that one a little bit.
Hey let's hear next Diego safi 2364 C E S M
Mister saffi if you raise your right hand do solemnly swear or
affirm the testimony you're about to get to be the truth,
the whole truth and nothing but the truth is thank you.
>> We can have to a building inspector are presented a copy
of his presentation to the court requested to be entered
into record.
We are in case number 23 6.60 for the story in one case here.
It is
2364 C S and it's for property that's located at 14 '09 Ponce
de Leon Springs, which is and by Diego sacking.
The violation charge of Seminole County code chapter,
40 appendix a section one of 5.1
description of the violation installation of electrical
wiring with new sub panel and receptacles and window removed
and resealed without the required permits.
The slide shows a case summary is following the initial
inspection was done on 2.16 of 23 notice to the respondent one
out of 3, 6, of 23 getting the compliance states shown on the
screen.
Follow-up inspections that were shown but both on site and via
computer results. The inspection, the violation
remains on the property.
This is a slide of the screen shot of the property
appraiser's website that shows Diego safi is the record owner
of the property and
the side here shows a photograph showing the posting
of the notice for this hearing that was on the property for a
29 of 23.
The slide here shows the electrical wiring with new sub
panel receptacles and window that was removed and taken on
2.16 of 23.
The slide here shows the electrical wiring shown on 2.16
of 23 as well.
And this slide here shows 2.16 of 23 as well a couple wired a
new sub panel receptacles and window that was removed and
taken on 2.16 of 23.
The slide here is a photograph that was taken on 9.13 of 23
that shows that we're kind of looks like. It appears we're in
the same process is where we were in the beginning.
This is a copy of our permitting screen that shows no
permits applied for issued to correct the violation permit
number 23 5, 5, 8, 6, for offense permit number 23 for 2
zeros for solar PV roof installation
permit number 21 1, 5, 0, 8, who's far we're.
This is a cop in the side that shows chapter 40 in which
they're in violation of
this is a recommendation based on the testimony and evidence
presented in this case number 2364 see us at C E S M it's
determined that the respondent is the record owner of the
property located at 14 '09 Ponce de Leon Boulevard winter
Springs in Seminole County
has determined by the property appraiser's rec records.
It's been in session and control the property in
violation of Seminole County code chapter, 40 appendix a
section one oh 5.1.
Next slide shows for the recommendation that the special
magistrate ordered the respondent correct the
violations on or before. November 17th of 2023, in order
to correct the violation the respondent shall obtain the
required permits for the cited violation and the respondent
does not comply with the order a fine of $50 will be imposed
for each day, the violation continues or is repeated after
compliance. The respondent must contact the inspector to verify
compliance. This concludes my presentation.
>> Sir do you have any objection to the electronic
case filing admit into evidence no okay thank you can go ahead.
Well done.
I think no no no no do you have anything you want to add.
>> No no I just it was hard to get the plans for lakes.
They tell me I need to the press to be sealed and signed
from like an architect, so that was pretty hard to get somebody
there for that. So I got that working right now so I you know
signed with somebody yesterday and they say you should take
like 3 weeks
to get so
I don't know if I can e-mail them or have to bring him in
person that.
>> Signed plan they have to come in person to person.
But that's okay, and so the county has suggested that you
have until November 17th to come into compliance to have
any concerns with that time period.
So do you have anything else you want to add.
>> No, I got her car now so.
If I've run into a problem.
>> That is a retail get in contact with the best thing for
you to do is I have to and you know from number
Ruth girls team and Julie, that's my staff and I'm not
here and I'm in the field doing inspections. They're equipped
to handle any questions that come their way that's what I
had on the door hanger, but
I know I got a car.
>> Okay, perfect so many go ahead and order that you have
been properly noticed to be here that you are president you
have participate in the proceedings here today that the
county has presented sufficient evidence to determine that you
have in fact violated Seminole County code
chapter 40 appendix a section 1, 0, 5, 0.1.
I'm going to order that you bring the property into
compliance by receiving the proper permits.
By 11/17/2023, and if not you will incur a fine of $50 a day
for each and every day that the violation remains going to also
set a compliance hearing for 12/14/2023 if you are in
compliance, you do not need to attend, but if you're not then
you need to to attend so that we can discuss any further
measures from here okay, thank you thank you.
Next case is 20 to one '02 C E S Michael and Maureen CA I
I'm sorry for the Clinton situation.
Okay, great if you raise your right hand do solemnly swear or
affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth,
the whole truth and nothing but the truth to thank you Sir.
>> I have entered in this presentation of this
presentation to the clerk and requested to be entered into
record regards to see esm 22 wanted to see some Michael and
Maureen key I mean.
I did it. 2769 in my tears, Lake Mary Florida, 3, 2,
7, 4, 6,
He is currently in compliance. Violation described as
construction of an addition to the home Seminole County code
chapter, 40 index section one of 5.1 and its construction
without the required permits the case was originally heard
by the special magistrate on Jay January 1220 23.
An order was issued given the respondents a compliance date
of 3/9/2023 an affidavit of noncompliance was filed by the
inspector after reinspection on 3/14/2023.
An affidavit of compliance was filed by the inspector on
August, the 28th of 2023 after the permit was obtained on May
8th of 2023.
Recommendation based on the findings of fact issued on
January 12th of 2023 the special magistrate issued an
order reducing the mines to the administrative costs totaling
$667.60.
And these cars to be paid within 30 days of the find more
over to the original amount of $2,950 and constitute a lien on
the property, this concludes my presentation.
>> The county has asked that the presentation the electronic
file be entered into the record is evidence you have any
objection.
>> Additional you know.
A couple of for the year to year.
>> Sir, I first I asked if you had an objection to this
documentation being added into the to the record. It's right
next to you. Okay. Yes, you have an objection to this being
added into the record as evidence on the okay, thank you
go ahead.
>> Have to heading good.
The engine and that wasn't judging by how because special
vast he died. So I did a long time so I went to Sophie's
these of his was locked up when does about 2 weeks that that is
going to be passed so I have to move 4 and a G a do they call
it.
The the just so happy that it was sent to these County effect
on trying to show it to the county first.
>> And I think we have a copy of this you do we don't.
Do you have another copy of this could I keep this for the
records.
Well as the original compliant state.
We're joined her on January 12th the day was given on
3/9/2023.
So the compliance date was March 9th.
What when did you go to the office of the engineer.
>> What was I thought I thought the NFL all week. So I want to
get the his was looked up. So I went to that question so
that would be that is what about
so I went to feud is the fuel for about 2 weeks that somebody
to be that guy died.
That is the finest.
So
what it does do.
What about it before the end you have to take over the
position to continue the work that the community will to
fight them here. 5 not that the guys lead to that of that bus.
What should I do is that I have to look for the defendant
Julia. You said if it. Drawing that was yeah I have to start
all over again.
So I went to look for somebody.
I don't know what the
even if you have so at 02:00PM July morning.
So this group for that is causing a lot of money
with those of the people of the events that happened that would
be on my control. So I have great. If you go with the
additional feet because I won't try loves through this process
that this was a little of that because a little money.
>> So many asked the county a couple questions so the the
original. Hearing date was January 12 so he was basically
given 2 months to come into compliance 60 days. Yes,
ma'am okay, and then when did he actually come into
compliance.
>> I want to say the permit was obtained on May 8th of 2023.
>> It took me for about to find it on the engine, you have to
look at unity process he had.
>> Came in on 12 to 22 are different count on 12 1 of 22,
the stated his permit is in the stands to right now due to the
death of an architect. After confirming with Bob and Kyle I
emailed Pat to request a continuance from 12 to 8 of 22
to one 12 of 23 in order to allow more time to find a New
York attack.
And that was done on 12 to 22.
>> So there was still a hearing January there was a hearing
then on January 12 because of that 30 day rest correct.
It is so it appears that the record shows that he did
actually come in and try to to communicate with you all.
This is a very difficult one because it is I think that
I think what the county has recommended. They you know
they're trying to recant there pass, but then at the same time
I understand you were. You took on some additional expenses
that you weren't expecting to take on his route by having
Meyer an additional engineer after you've already paid the
other one.
So
I'm actually an order that the property is in compliance and
that no fines being imposed related to this case things.
Thank you Kate, thank you thank you.
The building official has come up and said he's good with
waiving the fees when tested so you actually that more to it
to the big guy in the back Saha.
Thank you Sir, thank you
Alice thank sure this gets in a record just the last of that.
She signed it.
Yes, thank you have to be there.
Darrell Crutchfield
>> alright case number 2323 C E S and their own children.
Nancy Ford Mister Crutchfield if you raise your right hand
please do solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you're
about to get to the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the
truth I do thank you.
>> One reader a quick. This is the key Hathaway building
inspector I presented a copy this presentation to the clerk
a request to be entered into record.
Case number 2323 CSM Darrell cuts for oil field and Nancy
Ford 7, 3, 3, overlook drive popped up 43 to 73.
Violation charge installation of new structural headers from
the members and drywall
that violation also Seminole County code chapter, 40 in the
next section one of 5.1 construction without the
required permits case was originally heard by the special
magistrate on April 13th of 2023 and order was issued
giving the respondent a compliance date of July 13th of
2023. An affidavit of noncompliance was filed by the
inspector after inspection on 7/18/2023. An affidavit of
complaint was filed by the inspector after permit was
obtained on July 28 of 2023.
As of yesterday we checked it out and he has resubmitted a
revision to his plans and he currently has a permit and is
in compliance.
We are recommending admin cost.
And those are
read through that.
Having a list here.
I don't have that on us.
>> So I do. Sarah cost
okay.
College I that's not on the 7
gender.
3 the cost.
>> There are $461.21.
The tangible and our service costs can show you this
picture.
So the 442 are the basic cost of maintaining the file and
there some actual hard cost of the team's 32 correct okay,
so the total costs are a $461.21. So he remain out of
compliance for about 10 days 15 days.
And at all times said he remained in contact with you.
>> He had a permit originally. The case it was originally
heard was from an inspector who is doing or if inspection when
he came down he saw all structural members and training
that was done. I went out there to see Mister Crutchfield
because I figured there's got to be in this interpretation
summer what this permits for because he had a permit for
some interior remodel.
So he showed me the inside of that House we talked and I said
these are the things that you need that are not on your
plans. You need to revise your plans and resubmit them and
spent about an hour. They're talking with them and then from
that time forward he moved forward with trying to get that
done because originally there was a permanent place just more
work was done them what was permitted okay.
>> Mister Crutchfield ago when asked that the county has asked
this electronic file be submitted into the record you
have any objection to that do okay. So they're asking for
cars and the amount of $461.21. For the number of days rather
than imposing the fine. I'm assuming $50 a day is what the
penalty that this man was okay. Do you have anything you'd like
to add.
>> Well Hillary knows out of compliance for those days from
the previous hearing believe in April when she gave me more
time.
You know was my misunderstanding, I thought I
was ice cold, so I got here. So what I show my co far well
before even came out, I was waiting for a notice but is
came out and she explained everything to me.
>> The whole process is.
>> Even from doing this this Basin with the first suspect
there may. I don't know if there's a misunderstanding
and of the country a lot so when I got the answer this is
actually what it was that we finally got to him though
I mean whatever is moles
and we'll call them in kirkos as well just little sure the
county Kirk also me. I was always his wife but as with the
whole thing could because
everybody did their due diligence on both sides to kind
of
reach that goal so
well, this is food.
>> So if we're going to be fair to both sides that means coming
somewhere in the middle better than 0.
>> We could go 200 to 20.
So.
>> I think a riot.
I I do believe that that you're correct that was probably a
misunderstanding related to, but what needed to be on those
plans for that work since you were attempting you did have
contact with with the county. And I appreciate that I think
that's very important and I think I Sol you hear a month
before trying to be heard so 3rd. I do appreciate you taking
the time to continue to the communication. But the county
did have some costs and this and they had some specific
actual costs so what I'm going to do is I'm going to split
their their
their cost of maintaining the file which is $442.89 I'm going
to bring that down to $221.45.
Plus I'm going to charge you for the hard costs of $18.32
there with a map was not my strong suit which is why I went
to law school.
So with that is $239.77.
And I'm going to order that she pay that within 30 days if you
do not pay the amount of $239.77 with and 30 days,
I'm going to order that the mail and the 15 day period,
$50 a day and all of the costs. The riot.
Willie near property, if you cannot pay the 300 or the the
2.39 and I believe that 15 days is
$750 plus the 4 6121. Would push that over.
Well over a 1000 so
we rated to 3977 in 30 days we get to go.
>> Record and working out for you.
>> You can pay it. After the order is issued that would be
in a few days you receive it you can pay it then and you pay
it here.
It will not be recorded and last you don't pay it up first
this.
Okay, good all right, thank you to thank for. Thank you.
We want to get.
We let me know when you're ready. I'm ready okay, let's
call also.
>> Our assisted living LLC 2359 CSM.
>> Thank you have a building inspector are presented a copy
of this presentation to the court to request to be entered
into record.
Case number 2359 C E S and as for that located at 1131 West
Lake Brantley road outman Springs which is owned by
all-star assisted living LLC the violation charges Seminole
County code chapter, 40 appendix a section one of 5.1
description of the violation installation and renovation of
the 2 story structure without the required permits and
this slide shows a case summary as follows initial inspection
that was down 3.22 of 23 notice to the respondent one out the
same day given the compliance data for 5 of 23 and then
another one that went out on 6.14 of 23.
Inspection showed a site visit and be a computer results of
that inspection, the violation remains on the property.
This is a screenshot from the property appraiser's website
that shows All Star and what assistant living LLC that
should be our for the record owner of the property.
This is a picture of the post hearing that is that was done
on the property on a 29 of 23.
This is actually a picture at the structure that's in
question here. The photograph of the 2 story structure that
was taken on 3, 1, of 23.
This is a photograph of the interiors 2 story structure
that was taken on 3, 1, of 23 when I met the owner on site.
This is a photograph the 2 story structure taking on 3.20
of 23 again.
Photograph that was also down 5.31 of 23. And another one
that was taken on 6.26 of 23.
This is pictures these are slides of the photograph that
was posted on the final letter due to return mail on 7,
7, of 23.
Again there's a photograph that was taken on line, 13 of 23
before the hearing.
The screen shows no permits applied for issued to correct
the violation.
This is a copy of the slide that shows chapter 40 of which
they're a violation of
this next slide shows a recommendation based on the
testimony and evidence presented in case number 2359 C
E S M
it is determined that the respondents. The record owners
of the property located at 1131 West Lake Brantley road out to
mount Springs in Seminole County as determined by the
property appraiser's records and possession and control the
property and in violation of Seminole County code chapter,
40 attended a section one of 5.1.
This next slide shows that it's for the recommended that the
special magistrate ordered the respondent to correct the
violation on or before December 15th of 2023, in order to
correct the violation or a spot shower obtain the required
permits for the cited violation. At the respondents
do not comply with the order fined $50 will be imposed for
each day, the violation continue or repeated after
compliance.
The respondent must also contact the inspector to verify
compliance. This concludes my presentation.
>> Okay, I'm going to go ahead and order or find that the I
mean except the electronic case fall into the record. I'm going
to find that
the property owner all-star assisted living LLC was
properly noticed to be here today and they are not present.
Now find that sufficient evidence has been presented to
support a violation of Seminole County coach after 40 appendix
a section one oh 5.1.
I'm going to
with me and ask if you have had any kind of contact by anyone
from this.
>> I spoke to a contractor this morning who was signed on.
2 days ago,
who is it's the it's the home is an assisted living facility
apparently there's somebody who's a resident there at that
facility that recommended this contractor because he's never
do this not like all we do it all the time so it can be done.
It should be a simple thinks he's just got to be able to get
himself and there into the building see what all required
I pretty much whenever that today with what he needs to do.
Everything is covered up, so it's going to require an
engineer to approve it because we want to accept it without
seeing it.
And so he's a working towards that and I told we asked for
additional time because it's probably going to take some
time.
>> Has anyone from the the actual at the property owner
itself contact, yes, ma'am I just I met with the Leah who is
signed I think the new owner now she is the new owner
>> shouldn't speak Rogan English so I think there may be
a communication barrier there somewhere too so that's why I'm
trying to be lenient with her. She did hire this man and I
think it would be a pretty simple fix for them to get done
it's if he stays with it.
>> OK can't ask them to go ahead and order that the
property be brought into compliance by december 15th,
2023 war, the property will incur a fine in the amount of
$50 per day.
I'm going to.
The next meeting date after that is set for 3/14/2024 which
will meet the compliance hearing date for this case.
And that's all I have my I'm sorry can you repeat that
marked for I have March 14th here is they're not 2024.
Looking here.
I don't have a January day. OK so what's the role of the
January date me that will be the day that we have the
compliance hearing for.
I think you look at your calendar.
I'm sorry I can look at.
We need to.
>> We'd like it to be.
2.
>> I will order that compliance state. The compliance hearing
the 1/11/2024.
We let's are you reading this man OK, let's go ahead and call
the next case 2360 C E S M
so I can put.
>> To have the way building inspector I presented a copy
this presentation to be to the pardon request to be entered
into record.
Case number 2360 CS and us for the property located at 6,
3, 9, Queensbridge drive Lake Mary which shows so so I can't
pronounce the name. But so the and put
the violation charges Seminole County code chapter, 40
appendix a section one of 5.1 description, the violation is
installation of a screen enclosure and sense without the
required permits.
Next slide shows a case are as follows initial inspection was
done on a 26 of 20.
That is to the respondent went out on a 27 of 20 compliance,
dates and extensions were shown on a screen above
all of its pensions, both on-site and be a computer show
as well as a result of the inspection, the violation
remains on the property.
The screen. This is a screenshot of the property
appraiser's website the shows so be by 10 foot as the owner
of the property.
This is a slide that shows put us that the pows to have the
property on a 29 to 23.
This is a picture of this of the fence and the actual
screening room that was taken on a 26 of 20.
The slide again shows the fence, the screen enclosure
taking on 10
2021.
And again, this is another one on 1020 of 21 of the slide.
That shows the fence and the actual screening room.
This next slide shows the fence, a screen enclosure
taking on 2, 9, of 22 for 13 of 22 6.20 to 22.
And we've got an aerial image here that was taken on one 15
of 23 shown benzene and screen enclosure
this one here was also taken the slide shows that it was
taking on 6.13 of $0.23 a screen enclosure as well.
This is a picture slide of the posting of the property on 7
1323 do that returned mail.
And again from 9.13 of 23 before this hearing the defense
of the screen. Enclosure that was taken.
This is a picture or a slide. The permitting screen that
shows the application for the point closure was received on
7, 7, 22 an application for the defense was received on to one
of 20 to 22 1, 1, 5, 4, 7, for the poor and pleasure has been
voided due to over 6 months of inactivity 20 to one that 6,
9, 4, for the fences, currently improve status pending issuance
to the correct to correct the violation
copy the permit application for that fence was received on to
one of 22 application was approved on 11 to 22, however
cannot be issued to change the contractor farm has been
received transferring the permit from a previous owner to
a car owner.
This is a slide. The copy of the permit application for
point closure that was received on 7, 7, 22. Corrections were
submitted by the applicant by the zoning department on 7.19
of 22. Due to a 180 days of inactivity the workflow process
has stopped on one 18 of 23 and subsequently pointed out on 5
1123, no action had been taken.
The slide here shows after plan review by planning and
development applicant needs a variance to keep the polling
closure the variance application was submitted by
the various owner was approved on 5.
12 5, 22 an additional requirement to obtain and
vacate the drainage utility easement
the slide over here shows that the big Kate avocation was
submitted by the new owner was subsequently approved.
In June of 23 as the permit application, 22 1, 1, 5,
4, 7, has been voided a new permit application for the pro
enclosure must be submitted for review and approval.
This next slide shows a copy of chapter, 40 of which are in
violation of.
Next slide is the recommendation based on the
testimony and the evidence presented the case number 2360
C E S M it is determined that the respondent is the record
owner of the property located at 6, 3, 9, klingberg strive
Lake Marion and Seminole County is term another property
appraisers records and especially our control the
property and in violation of Seminole County code chapter,
40 appendix a section one of 5.1.
It is further recommended that the special magistrate or the
respondent to correct the violations on or before
11/17/2023 in order to correct the violations respondent shall
obtain the required permits for the cited violation at the
respondents do not comply with the order fined $50 be imposed
for each day, the violations continue to repeat it after
compliance. The respondent must contact the inspector to verify
compliance. This concludes my presentation.
>> We go ahead and accept the electronic case file into the
record as evidence
has it seems that
through the the slides that they have been working toward
getting government's various times.
>> They have transferred over to the new owner and they did
do some things but they let the permit labs and it's just
sitting there at some point in time.
>> So is it fair to say that there was more activity by the
prior owner, then there is by the current owner or.
>> I would assume that they are by the prior owner, sometimes I
don't think they understand the various processes a lot of
times but I've not talked to this this person at all okay.
>> And they just do not ship show up here today at hay,
I'm going to find in this case.
2360 C E S that the property owner was properly noticed to
be here and is not present
that sufficient evidence has been presented by the county to
support the violation of Seminole County code chapter,
40 appendix a section 1, 0, 5, 0.1. We don't order that the
property proved to be brought into compliance by November,
17.
2023, and I'm going to order.
A $150 a day.
Has apparently if the property is not bound to compliance by
November.
17,
and I'm going to set a compliance hearing of December
14th,
2023 in this case.
Next case 2023 to 2023 63 CS and
Glenn us and then send Freddie de la Cruz.
>> For the record building a baking have weighed on the
inspector had presented a copy this presentation to the court
requested to be entered into record.
Case number 2363 C S M MS for property located at 1320 McNeil
wrote about on Springs which is owned by
and said that La Cruz de la Cruz. Description a violation
installation of Windows without the required permits.
This next slide shows a case summary as follows the initial
inspection happened on 6.26 of 23 minutes of the respondent
was given on 6.29 of 23. Given the fine stating an
extension to 7 in 10 of 23. Follow-up inspection shown both
site on site and the computer results of that inspection,
the violation remains on the property.
This is a slide that shows a screenshot of the property
appraiser's website that shows that when Ian and Vincent
Freddie de la Cruz are the record owners of the property.
These are slides that show cause hearing notices that on
the property in a 29 to 23.
This is a slide that shows the new windows that were that we
found that were installed as of 6.26 of 23.
This is a photograph of the final weather posed teen due to
return that registered mail on 6.28 of 23.
As here's a photograph on 9.13 of 23 of the property out a
photograph of the violation remain 1323.
This screen here shows that permits applied to correct that
violation for the windows.
We have been working with them currently for a shed that was
issued I'm also for concrete and for demolition of the
assessor restructure that was there when they purchased the
home.
And also for issue for capped well and septic from the shed
to be demolished britian's for a permit. But there's none for
the windows.
This is a copy of the slide that shows chapter 40 in which
they're in violation of
this next slide is a recommendation based on the
testimony and evidence presented in this case number
2363 C E S it is determined that the respondents are the
records, the owners of the property at 1320 McNeil road
outman sprains in Seminole County as determined by the
property appraiser's records and possession or control the
property and in violation of Seminole County code chapter,
40 appendix a section one of 5.1.
As for the recommended that the special magistrate for the
respondent to correct the violation on or before
11/17/2023. In order to correct the violation of respondents
felt and the requirements for the cited violation.
At the respondents do not comply, but the order a fine of
$50 be imposed for each day, the violation continues or is
repeated after compliance.
The response must contact the inspector to verify compliance.
This concludes my presentation.
>> Thank you Alex at the electronic case fallen to
record as evidence have you had when you're having working with
them on the other permits have there been any conversations
with a related to the window at us.
>> They have been pretty much in touch with us for they
purchased this home new to them and it had assessed redrawing
thinking the in-laws will be living there. That didn't
happen and once they got into engineering they had in that
tear it down the motion and I said is just easier start over
and start of a permit and then go forward.
They're pretty diligent about working with us. I don't know
if there's a confusion on the windows here, but I usually
talk to the son in law who calls in regards to these
issues and there I've not heard anything on this one so I'm not
aware.
>> Okay, yeah, I mean I find that
the property owner was probably noticed to be here today and
they are not present.
That's sufficient evidence has been presented by the county to
support a violation of Seminole County code chapter, 40 and up
next a section one o 5.1.
I'm going to order that the property be brought into
compliance by 11/17/2020 23.
Where incur a fine of a $150 a day.
Until such time as the violations corrected. And I'm
going to schedule the compliance hearing for
12/14/2023. Thank you.
Okay next case 20 to 1, 0, 7, CS and Ian Williams.
>> For the record name is Vickie have to weigh the
inspector represented the copy this presentation to the clerk
and requested to be entered into record.
This is fairly hearing
the violation charge that's been charges insulation and
drywall exterior stucco 2 fireplaces kitchen, wall all
tile backer board ceiling bill down in multiple rooms,
electrical and wood paneling throughout which the paneling
if it's wood paneling and my concern with that it's the
drive all that we concern ourselves with shower and
remodel and was high on the bathroom success of the wet
areas.
The Seminole County coach after 40 penix a section one of 5
construction without the required permits case was
originally heard by the special magistrate on December 8th of
2022.
And order was issued giving the respondent the compliance date
of February 2nd of 2023.
An affidavit not compliant was filed by the inspector after
inspection on 2/3/2023.
Recommendation based on the findings of facts issued in
December, the 2022 the special magistrate issued the order
imposing only that the amount of $11,200. Part 224 days of
noncompliance from February, 3rd of 2023 through and
including September 14 of 2023 and the fine should continue to
accrue at $50 per day for each day, the violation continues or
is repeated after 9/14/2023. This concludes my presentation.
>> Hey, I'm going to find that the property owner was properly
noticed to be here today for this compliance, hearing.
And to add to the county has provided sufficient evidence to
show why the property is still not in compliance, even the
order to be in the bryants 5 2/2/2023.
I'm going to order that's the property and pay a fine in the
amount of $11,200 for the 224 days from the compliance date
of 2/3/2023, that the property has been out of compliance and
I'm going to order that the how they continue to accrue any
amount of $50 a day for each and every day. The violation
continues does the county have any costs in this matter that
it would like imposed.
In this case.
>> We typically don't do that if we go for the hearings until
we finalize this out we've not talked to the owner.
>> So
the new duty, I have a right up at this point right you're
wrong.
>> Gas are today them and that could be after you impose lean
and they're not in compliance.
>> He is
when did you call
called you called you this morning.
He's a medical issue number 2.
>> I know my staff search's hit baby was deceased or something
you haven't heard anything from me.
>> Okay I'm I'm getting my order is going to stand and
then if
Mister Williams months to come in.
Discuss further, what we need to do that and we can certainly
discuss that with them. I do recognize the fact that he did
call in today. But he has had notice of this hearing. I
realize he has a situation that could not be help that he's not
here for. But that does not change the fact that he was
ordered to come into compliance on 2/2/2023. And so I'm going
to go ahead and impose the lean and the fines associated and
then we will we can certainly look at this again if if
Mister Williams comes back with something that we need to
consider. Thank you. Thank you.
We didn't me.
>> This regardless of the fact that he called and had and a
medical issue.
This hearing was up for that purpose it was to determine
whether he was in compliance or not and with the evidence that
was shown to me there's nothing
I'm not on the record in this case, I'm just explaining.
I think that because of the evidence that was shown to me
that this case is still in violation and so yes we can
deal with it again if he wants to come forward after he said
sure tour.
>> Actually I do need to go on.
Thank you, I'm sorry
okay, the final case 20 to 1, 0, AC esm Robert and Susan
big NAS X.
>> Turkey have away building inspector presented a copy this
presentation to the clerk of requests it be entered into
record.
This case number also is Farley hearing.
We've got case number 20 to one o a C E S ever heard this isn't
a not sick at 2, 3, 7, 7, palm way would be to Florida 3,
2, 7, 6, 5, Installation of the shed and standby generator.
Without the Seminole County required permits that violates
Seminole County code chapter, 40 appendix a section one of
5.1.
This case was originally heard by the special magistrate on
December 18 we have 2022 and order was issued given the
response a compliance date of February 2nd of 2023 and
affidavit, not compliant was filed by the inspector after
the re inspection on 2/3/2023, based on the findings of fact
if facts issued December 8th of 2022 the special magistrate
issued an order the recommendation is that they
issue an order and host a lean and the amount of 11,200 for
224 days, not compliance from 2/3/2023. That included to
September 14 to 2023 in the fight will continue to accrue
$50 per day for each day, the violation continues or is
repeated after September 14 of 2023. This concludes my
presentation.
>> We'll find that the property owners. In this case were
properly noticed to be here and they are not here to contests
compliance and a fine of there is sufficient evidence to
support that the properties owned by a leash an of Seminole
County code chapter, 40 appendix a section one oh 5.1
going to order that a fine in the amount of $11,200 be
imposed for the 225 days that the property has been out of
compliance. As of the compliance deadline of 2/3/2023
and the property continue to accrue find in the $50 a day
for each and every day. The violation continues to remain.
Thank you.
That concludes our a magistrate hearing for September 14th
we're next hearing date is November 9. I think the state's
change though they did change. Yes October as well. The end of
the numbers of different. Yeah, that's correct. Okay.
October 12th is the next hearing date OK returned.