>> Too.
>> We're working with here.
I was seconds it, but what I don't want to
actually going holy.
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and to stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty
and justice for all.
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the functions of the report are as follows make recommendations
to the chief administrator of the Office of Emergency
management regarding animal care and regulation consistent
with Florida statutes chapter, 20 of the summit County code.
These recommendations first must be approved by the
majority of the control board
prior to the submission to the chief administrator for the
Office of Emergency management.
The animal control board shall meet at least 3 times per year
special meetings may be called by the chairman or vice
chairman or buy any 3 members of the board up on 48 hours
notice to all members and to the end of control.
Official and chief administrator for emergency
management and the majority of the animal control board shall
constitute a quorum
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>> I had a chance to look at the minute we have any comments
on the questions corrections
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second. All approved it.
Minutes are approved and thanks to a Democrat isn't here.
But thanks to vice chair for covering meeting less session.
Next order of business is old business.
So since we have been working on the program one 2nd here
Grandma notes.
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So that he and the army so do we have a debate on the DMV our
stuff
good evening.
>> Yeah, just update on the team that was done successfully
going for the program has actually been very successful
working with the program this year alone. It's just the along
we've already transferred 422 animals into the program this
year with that, I mean so we continue to move from we're
still giving out information to us citizens and we are getting
calls about the program some for some against it, but I
think for the most part people access supporting the program.
So it so we're going to continue moving forth and I
just think it's going to be a successful program going
forward.
You said that just a bit like the majority of people are for
to you know keep again I get a lot of homeless people wonder
why we let him go over what we had to Kate and let them know
the place to start to understand that some of the
really not understanding, but they have the CEP because it
was voted on to have the program so.
>> The UK is no component is as important and people realize
you know the cats aren't there because the like you there
because there's something tracking him.
>> Absolutely and it says the program is dogs that again and
welcome back to my cup of all the cast.
Since we started going have liked to recast their exit.
I mean back that's also the embassy is working it to
continue to come back to different location or movement
of our program.
Questions.
>> It is there any public comments on the
on the other items do is when.
>> Okay so the next issue is the animal abuse registry.
All right good evening. Alan Harris chief product director
now for the Office of Emergency management got a new title.
Next there's no those are. Just that's just a different
title. I so as promised at the last meeting we want to bring.
>> Forward the animal abuse registry. For your blessing and
moving forward. We've had a lot of good communication now with
the clerk of the court. Because the next slide it on the U.S.
registry. There are a few counties in the state of
Florida has a registry.
This was actually brought of 4 as a commissioner request for
an agenda item. Earlier this year. But then there was a
state bill that was brought forward which of the talk about
and then so that was put in place on pause and then that
now are back so this the registry is in some counties
like miami-dade Lucia a Leon County. I watched I believe
Hillsborough so a few counties. Not all of that but but quite a
few across the state of Florida. It is a list of
individuals goals have been convicted of doing animal abuse
or committee animal abuse. In our judicial district.
So it'll be over a list of those individuals and then
rescues our shelter, other folks can take a look at the
registry prior to any adoptions
and prevent individuals from adopting animals based on based
on the registry.
The individuals addresses in another County that has a
registry of course they can go to that County. For example,
if someone wanted to adopt. But they lived in Volusia
County. We have the ability rescues have the ability to go
to pollution counties, the registry and look for their
address that.
So as I mentioned. Initially the commissioner had requested
us move forward with this is agenda item for discussion.
We table that because of Senate bill 9.32, what was going to
establish a statewide animal abuse registry. That that bill
did die in committee didn't make it through. The the
legislation and that was probably due to some of the way
it was written. I it is in the registry like we are proposing
it was a registry where you had to actually go in and register.
And it would have been a lot of staff time for animal services
office to register individuals of every year someone committed
to a registry every year kind of like a sexual offender or
predator things like that you would have to come in and and
regularly register so that that bill ended up dying. So we have
we can get back up knowing that we probably would be asked and
there was also some interest from the public
which is here to to bring that forward as well. So we went
ahead and started the project.
We had to do quite a few different things we need of
course to talk to legal illegal has approved us moving forward
with specific language. Risk management to look at in the
liability of us having this on our website. They'd identified
that the liability was minimal, so we could move forward
information technology of course because they're going to
have to build our Web page they're going to have to build
a link where the the the the registry will lay and then be
updated on a regular basis.
Office of management budget just because there was some
expenses related to that as well as to our team for keeping
it up and things like that.
In the quarter the quarter which is probably one of the
most important part persons in this because that's where all
the data that exists. That's who owns the data.
So we would obtain the data from the clerk of the court.
We were looking at doing that potentially weekly and then
updating the most current data to the Web page what a week.
That was and that was something that the clerk of the court
said that they could do as well. I know that in other
counties, there's an automatic feed. We were unable to do that
in this County. So the once a week I think this is pretty
good.
Plus there's not a lot of court cases they cord on animal
abuse. Week to week so we're not going to miss someone
hopefully just by one week.
So what our next step is of course, I'm here that to get
approval from you to move forward to the Board of County
commissioners. If you so choose.
Again illegal has approved language for the Web page so
they've already resigned that they've developed it. So think
the county Attorney's Office even though it wasn't robbery,
but think your office for doing that for us as the bank's yes,
Deseret up time she was sorry, she couldn't be here today will
re happened have Robbie with us tonight.
The clerk of the court. Again will provide though week of
offender, the list of offenders once a week.
Right now we're still working on with the clerk of the court
the county Attorney's Office. Exactly how long in in the past
will go. When we look to add. Leon miami-dade Volusia
Hillsborough there didn't seem to be a consistent. Number of
years past the conviction. That individual state on the
registry. So we're still working on that. That's why
that's Blake and we're probably probably not unless you have a
suggestion. We're probably all of the commissioners figure
that out with County attorneys input based on what they have
seen across the legal spectrum. But if you have an opinion was
certainly would bring that opinion to the commissioners
and let them know what you know what you suggest
again and all services division will upload the the the
registry. Once a week to our website.
And then animal services division as we had talked to a
couple. I believe those Leon and Hillsborough the not very
many, but a couple people have called because they had moved
or whatever the address was the address of an individual that
wasn't
the person and they wanted to adopt an animal so though we
just have to anticipate that that potentially could come in
not often probably not very much at all. But developing
some type of procedure for any type of public concern things
like that and address that appears to be wrong whatever
and then working with the clerk of the court to to identify why
that was why it is like it is and that whatever remedy we
needed to do with the clerk of the court.
So our recommendation is we will ask of you. Staff has
reviewed this. We we request the animal control board to
approve and authorize staff to move forward with the launching
of the animal abuse registry. Bringing that forward to the
Board of County commissioners which the earliest would be
October the 10th. So we'll bring it forward to the Board
of County commissioners on October 10th at their may
meeting for their approval and authorization, the staff to
move forward with the launch of the animal abuse registry.
If you so vote on that tonight and that is the end of my
presentation, if there's any questions.
>> Yes, yes. So when we're talking about the you're saying
with the Registry how long, I mean is there an issue with it
being a lifelong with an exemption that if they feel
that they want to remove themselves that they could come
to the board and plead their case and then remove himself
that way, but sure world so I mean I just don't see why
someone would just come wouldn't just fall off to the
registry after let's say 10 years. If I you know, and like
I said without them coming to not necessarily as but somebody
and plead their case of why they should be removed from the
registry.
>> That it is going to be an appellate process is the only
thing I know him this was the one that one play they can make
it in overturned is there a way for them to get off of the
list.
If they are if it's overturned and a court yes, that means
they would they would call off the list that and if there is
an individual that's on there again. The address is messed
up. That person doesn't live there anymore that was my
spouse, we've got a divorce they don't whatever. The person
is dead.
Man my children want a dog.
Then yes, that is something that we would have to and
that's again what we would have to develop procedures with the
clerk of the court to identify well that the person really
move it to seize. Now the doors, whatever
you need to update their records was or your records and
then we need to obtain those updated records one week later.
>> Yeah, and you, but you are asking for our guests are in
you know on how long somebody should. And I'm I would say
like issue
like I said clear case and that's vote up on from that
point on that okay. There's there's a reason why but.
>> Some don't some state statutes. Yeah, I would at
least a lifetime would be.
Yeah, there's is there any and I know that Desiree is trying
to work on that too along with Kate that.
>> Yeah but I am not aware of any kind of limitation map.
>> So we'll have to look at 9 other cats, one thing that.
Kate are new County attorney and his and Robbie's team is
looking into that we're going to bring back if you vote,
yes, we're going to bring back on October the 10th but if
there's not a statute of limitations or something on
that type of information then.
I will say that it in in the power point even that we want
to be a life time. Yeah, if that's what you all vote on in
a few minutes after a public apology. But yes, I am.
>> In their day of hearings going to be included in.
In that first you have to get out there, you know covered by
magistrate not not by us so that put them into a different
in the same realm of.
>> So that's something that also I'd like it so if there is
an individual that wants to be removed from it we will need to
try to develop some type of appeal process. And I would
think that this would be the appropriate board for that type
of appeal at all I think that that would be a magistrate type
thank you can get
because the magic this to the magistrates looking at statutes
and this is a registry that has something to do with the
statute.
>> And our Gators don't hearings will be included in
the criteria to be on this this list are. So not not dangerous
dogs, but an individual that has
committed a crime against an and all that
charged and convicted that's correct.
Okay, so do we have of becoming for this. Yes, he said.
>> Yes, we do have public comment. Kind of care we have a
few. The first question about it is Linda rate in.
And also provided us with some paperwork.
If you'll state your name and address for the board please.
>> When the rate in 6, 5, 7, Lake drive Altamonte Springs.
Connecticut.
We have 3 minutes.
The standard of care certificate was recently passed
this summer unanimously allowing Seminole County to
incorporate new requirements for Kauai son saying if I
understand this correctly the database part of what they're
calling a registry is kind of like a database will be an
asset to this code. It will also allow adoption centers.
Rescue crews access to the list of animal abusers.
I have been following a couple of cases as in the documents
that I gave you.
One is the Brandon Blake case for more than 20 dogs were
found in less than ideal conditions and 4 of which died
there have been similar cases as well in the past year.
They're also minor cases involving
2 or 3 dogs who are left to starve to death while the
person moved one was here in Seminole County the other end
for far the point is that animal cruelty is out there and
whatever means we can try to prevent future occurrences.
They should be considered.
Thank you.
And please read my documents could still see the animal
abuse cases. And some of them to me are horrific and these
people need to not to be banned from owning dogs and I'm not
sure what the future will hold because I don't want family and
friends to be able to get acquire dogs and then pass them
on to say the person who was on the database was so but it can
be a community involvement too. Yeah, maybe watch these people
in the future to make sure that
they
are not owning dogs or animals, I should say
okay, thank you thank you.
>> The next speaker is Debbie
the Reno.
We want to go under.
You'll state your name and address for the board.
>> Debbie to Reno 6, 7, 9, 5, callous to the circle.
Port orange Florida.
And Terry.
So let me introduce myself first of all
Ponce as long as my bill that passed that your felony animal
cruelty statute for the state of Florida.
So I passed that pass some anti camping ordinances that would
shelter bills I POW C Bush County and all
we carved out a base animal abuse database for Volusia
County. That was my past and also died. Boy from the Florida
Association of counties
as best practices no other registry in the state because
that award.
I don't call it a registry because I see no need for you
to come register.
Why would our database is its consolidation right from the
clerk's office every convicted animal abuser we went back 10
years when we started
we went for 10 years, but you're in there 17 years back
10 years going forward there's no statute like you're asking
about the however many years she won Hillsborough has 3 or
5, you know each County just decides what they pick a number
and that's what it is we pick 10.
The animal abuse database, the first month it was a 2 people
went to the local humane society are Halifax humane
society.
Both of those people were in the database. So that
that tells you right there it works
do they need to register no because this is public record
from the clerk of courts to begin with Dew ad does anybody
come and complain about it, you know they're there and will be
searched, and they're convicted they're not looking.
Nobody's ever gone to a budget since the day that we are it is
don't do that
could you know it's public record there's no need to take
them out it's public record. If you look at it in the
newspaper they're not going make the newspaper take its
public record. So you don't need to worry about that either
everything that I did for the database went through our city
manager as well
went to the council voted unanimously if you do like to
see it all over the news. There's several other counties
are talking every single County. It had a registry and
to see how the 2 of theirs worked and based on their
information and the polls I found that might be an issue.
That's where I came up with how our says it gets transferred
from clerk of courts office directly
to our Volusia County animal services Web sites of it for
you to look at that
all right that we had a meeting we had are often the clerk of
courts. We had the it guys and county. And
we all had a meeting about that so it from the county.
>> That's been the biggest.
What's he going to go travel for a few minutes.
>> So so it departments in the county and then from the clerk
of courts, they developed a way to just transmit ours is done
every day so it's just a blink they they figured it out the it
guys I have their emails in case you need their help.
For any reason they're happy to help.
If you're convicted that's all I can do it did not and UK
should count for anything.
What I did is I went to about 5 pages of that sort of statutes
for animal abuse and we picked out pretty much everything that
we thought she'd get when they're this sections that
nobody ever knows convicted of. And so I guess it when you're
convicted of that set a new trial court. That are meant to
go said the data base.
Kids transferred automatically elect I think that because of
the cost and then it just went in the end it's in and so
it's something that you guys need to have we worked out I
was working on trying to get every County in his state to do
want to do it just like my mum,
then covid hit so we were kind of set up with the Florida
Association counties because there's a member from every
county in the state there 67 counties to come to this it was
in their newsletter everybody was receptive to it as well.
So we're starting to get it and then there's covid certainly
you know nobody can do anything for the last couple years.
>> Thank you so much for everybody that applied for for
for other counties to follow. Thank you.
The question.
>> That is the information going to your database, its
students they're found guilty or pleaded guilty and is it
going there after the appeal process. His
where the native.
What they have a right to appeal it.
>> You can heal something that you're convicted of its
problem, it's public knowledge and they go through a public
appeal.
I'm personally maybe 10% of appeals ever get approved
anyway by senator convicted here in there if you file
compete, you know an appeal for your case and they get to
return. Yes, you would have to take that out because the other
convicted.
>> Yeah, but you put it in the for the time for the appeal.
>> Processes are convicted of anything and as soon as they're
convicted.
Most people. I'm like I said their appeals. Even
the city and pastas case I work with the state attorneys and I
do all of us stay with the animal abuse cases. He wanted
to feel you know his case is well known to do it would
follow a Supreme Court.
That was a pretty big case.
What is your Web site visit the if you go on to Lucia County
animal services and then you'll see animal abuse database.
It's at the top right hand corner, you just click on it,
you know bring in there. You can type in a name and it's
great, you really need right, especially with the cases that
you have going on over here right now because the last
thing you want is somebody that's abusing torturing
animals to go and get another animal.
We had a case in Volusia County where a lady you might have
heard about a couple years ago kick up a copy
grounded into an airport North Dakota where she lived in
Edgewater well
she had a roommate and she went to be she wasn't allowed to
have animals should not be.
The roommate know that she could have reported say,
hey, here's an abuser and killed a copy and it would come
and gone what process law or the
part of the law is banning animal abusers from owning
animals having any contact. You know with animals at all
period and so when people say how do we you know have we
know. Well, this is a good way to start the rescues your
teammates and your local shelter, your everyday person
that just wants to rehome their dog look because there's a lot
of those abusers out there just looking for an animal to use
especially people that dog fight.
So they'll tell you the first thing they did was ended in
craigslist or wherever looking for animals to to get as the
nobody's looking them not to see if they're in that you know
can your registry or database.
They're going to another animal so that is another resource
tool to h***.
Protect the animals and that's that's our main focus
that will be our main focus is just protecting those animals
from the abusers.
But they don't ever sued anybody that I know of from
think that any of those registries
we had Marion County which is
Molly's law that was one of the first just read out there and
talent and then. Osceola County has one is about to see a
couple more that are in there. And then I think I was the last
one 1, 7, The great if you guys could do that and it's just a
great resource to.
They keep the pick.
>> Okay Katrina shadix.
>> The their countrymen checks to women Senate co trails
Geneva Florida, 3, 2, 7, 3, 2, I'm just here to thank you all
for having this on the agenda and thank Ellen for all of the
hard work he's doing on this. We needed to for a long time
and he's really been on on the call with responding to the
public who wants this isn't the commissioners who wanted and
this kind of started a couple years ago when commissioner,
her told me about and potential spent things going on in midway
about the dogs, I'm boarded the situation to the county and the
county did not have any laws that they could charge fees.
This person with for abusing the dogs. Fast forward 2 years
and that ended up being the person who was arrested for
starting to death for Brandon Blake that Linda mentioned so
things could be put in place we can prevent the deaths and
abuse that so many animals because it's very very much
needed in this County we do have dog fighters in the county
they can. I just went to the Orange County animal shelter,
sorry, I didn't get to the Seminole County one. But there
are $2 and I adopted them and I got them so easy, I love that I
was able to adopt them. But how many other people go in and
adopt dogs and do bad things with them immediately and the
animal abuser a database to prevent that and we are working
on getting won a statewide it's going to be sponsored this
year, however we don't want to depend on the state to pass an
because as we saw with last session it didn't get out of
committee that's what we need one more counties to passed
around and then we can incorporate everything we have
a database, it shows where other agencies can go and look
at the information you don't have to register person.
Therefore, you noted in the borough back in the pushback of
having a registry.
>> And that's what they're going to do hopefully state
wine is good the database, not a registry that these things
plan that that want to shift past is the best example to go
by and state. So hopefully, I know can you turn to resource
and also really bad Baron who got moments off cashes in Marin
County I'm in contact with her today she and I are actually
lobbying for the statewide
animal abuser database and she wanted to be here tonight,
but she couldn't and she said to call him any time we don't
want to advise her how she's happy to help and so is DEP so
we're pretty lucky here in Seminole County have those 2
may be something in us and this was out doing that said thank
you, I hope you all know this for many kids incorporated 37
so Brandon Blake could be the first person put on there.
>> I have no public comment care.
>> Who want to use in the public and didn't submit a form
who has any comes to be added to this decision okay so we
went up to the board to discuss is everybody wants to add
anything in the question staffing requests just Allen or
any additions or changes.
I think in due to the heart and the color red streak and
implies they have to register as a fundraiser, having all
that and will be the database and it would be a little more
descriptive of what actually is so that it has.
No sale you're on a registry, it seems to have you know we we
want want to to be would have a database available to to have
access to the public to do this I think I did that change and
they would be
advisable the with the right word is that.
>> I like the word registry to pay and that that's just me but
it it sets it apart from a database.
Sexual offenders are they on a registry or database.
A little bit of Bulls.
>> Haha yeah, there is no consistent. So you're felons
and years.
Sex offenders like that they do have to register to have to
come in to the sheriff's office. You know, they have to
update all their information that's a consistent thing and
is that what you're asking for is are these guys or gals
they haven't come in to register or is it just we have
other information. They've been convicted so we're going to put
it on you.
>> A check that's Korea so we technically, we wouldn't even
have the database, but we will update the database from the
clerk of the court. I have to say that because there are some
legal least when it comes to that so we do we're not the
owner the data. The clerk of the court is the owner of the
data and we will receive that that based on how the clerk
provided to us because it is his data.
So
so yes, a database registry. We tried to look across the
state like miami-dade I just pull those up it's called
animal abuser registry. But you don't have to go when to
register Hillsborough County registry. Police County
database. It there's no consistency across to get this
type of work. I did either way whichever you prefer,
I'm the just you know she wasn't registering and they're
not do what has to be that there you are on the database
because you did the crime and so that's what.
I only got a clear public comment but thank you for
Rick refining it. Directory of the directory applies more of a
positive connotations of the negative connotation of you are
on your you on the best year on the naughty list and so we want
you to not be registry is is the most common that I have
found across the state night looked at about 10 or 11 of.
I mean there are a couple databases. I wouldn't want it
do it something different than the 2.
I have not seen in the other terminology and if you're as
most people just Google if you're googling something
you're probably going to Google animal abuse a registry or
animal abuser
and I were having to do whatever.
Yeah, it was a lot so that when I I the board is advising that.
>> I just would like to say something for everybody that's
here to kind share my my knowledge and my time as a law
enforcement officer that investigates this type of stuff
and has been. When it comes to Brandon Blake, a huge, you know
that that case in myself my partner that has been dealing
with that for years ID law enforcement as a whole you know
when we go out and learn our job and things like that
there's so many different aspects we kind of narrow down
on certain things in animal to animal, the black animal abuse
and stuff like that has been a small part now I will say there
have been the Humane Society, ASP all of them have but
classes are open up for law enforcement officers, we're now
starting to see such a need because of the reports across
the state across the nation. I will let you know that the
Florida Department of law enforcement is actually
developing a course they've picked about 15 of us subject
matter experts and we are developing that course as we
speak right now, I'm I've got a meeting next month. And we're
developing that that will be pushed out to all law
enforcement agencies in the state of Florida. So we are
trying to get better as law enforcement officers, so that
you know we we can identify these types of things and and
and make the
rest and and and go from that so I just want to put everybody
out there that that is actually working right now and we're
doing everything we can.
>> So just so that would be a good tool for the public to
have we would know who would have access to law enforcement
which is the whole public has this information so that we
don't know people who do have situations where they have to
read the middle, if you had a public, you know, greater gee,
you know just just click on it but in someone's name to make
sure they're not an animal abuser yeah, that's awesome so
thank you for being part of that that's taking time to
appreciate that.
>> And now this is not going to be open to the public right or
is it. It.
>> This want you all tell us to move forward and we will bring
it before the Board of County commissioners on October 10th
and then the public will have. It will be a regular agenda
item. So present a very similar when presentation and they can
anyone can come in. Well, I understand that the registry or
whatever they call the database will the public be able to
access that or is that yes so it be on our Web page. It will
be a link from our main Web page that will be a legal
message crafted by the county Attorney's Office. Discussing
you know, who owns the data which is owned by. But then you
click the link in have the registry there for you OK,
so somebody did want to rehome one of their own personal pet,
no, absolutely and you look at this at a time. That's good.
Other comments.
>> The other thing I'd like to add is about to make sure this
is been advertised on all over, you know social media and
whatever other avenues you have to do you just make people
really animals up next door is a big big side. The people use
for for rehoming animals are found animals or whatever.
So there's a big it haven't used it to make sure you
advertise into, but I think you have taken a lot of real good
considerations so thank you for your time and staff time put it
in here and so I think we make a motion that we vote to
advance us with the inclusion of a lifetime ban.
All in favor aye.
Motion passes.
And thank you for contributing to this conversation.
So the next and the next agenda item is the calendar held
around town of 8.
>> I has reached its one year anniversary and we have made a
lot of progress with the program today we've had over a
170 animals on walks. 153 have been adopted and one was
transferred to a rescue. We have 392,002 hours invested
into it.
And we're getting more and more volunteers right registering.
In our program we have to volunteer orientations and with
that and so getting a lot of a lot more people to sign up.
>> The war more volunteers absolutely.
>> Don do you track. Those towns that have gone out,
you know out on the town I'm in are those a 150 whatever I
think 153 to I those dop shuns from them being seen outside
or.
>> Handful where people have seen them when they were now
from the tail and they actually like Stockton back to the
shelter to.
>> What I wanted to know to actually you know being out in
the public is getting somebody to walk back.
>> Our report cards that we have that brought tears fell
out after the walk has been a really big help
was getting adopted in the shelter, you know from the
shelter if they haven't like out on the lesions with public.
Yeah, right yeah in the car. How they interact with the
people and so good to him
have you thought about going to these health centers where
people go to exercise and get healthy
and see if they want to become a volunteer and will adopt and
get help.
No we have not. We can always put it out there. And advertise
over maybe some of the gems to say if anyone wants to do that.
>> They're pushing trainers who you know trying to get people
to walk more than a year for the the rehab centers for
people who want to have your seniors to walk more.
>> Right the seniors, I'm not sure that because most of them
are medium to large dogs, okay, yeah, like scary for the.
I'm a little small.
We thank you hear what yes.
The issue will businesses paws and claws
so has every second of this year and what services will be
hosting a paws and claws event at the Greenwood lakes Park
from 10 to.
We have invited all over rescue groups we've contacted all of
our that Marion's a specialty.
Companies like that deal will said maybe growing. The have
like special
things that they make for animals like closing or colors
and staff we sent them all invitations out. So far we've
got to do
11 rescues that are tending trough specialty groups which
would include your training. We have that that area that's
going to come and
C a
first aid and that's going to demonstrate that and we have 2
years will be starting the raffle. We also have various
food trucks and a radio station for that payment and as a
surprise Santa will be arriving on a fire truck for photo ops
with pets and children.
So.
>> Any other business to discuss.
We know business.
And you use it as a comet so they're going to hear coming on
the TNR program I guess
I think going back to that there is a sorry I was late
starting back.
>> So yes want to give an update. I need to see money
matters into their lives for 11, it's been Street out on
Springs 3, $0.2, or one.
So we started November of 20 one member first so since then.
The total number of cats that we have tracked and team Dr.
Is 1394. The total number in.
>> I wasn't here to hear yours did your was your number for
this year like totals. Okay because I heard than I guess
it's a huge difference.
>> Okay, so the total number of cats and kittens that we've
gotten from Seminole County animal services. We actually
started in February of 22 is we've got our first confirm
them but then since September 1st 22 we've been getting every
week to stay inside even get a fix and we've got some now a
lot we've got a lot go through the numbers but we've
my number is 700. Take a few back. That's how many we've
done is taken from animal services and gotten, then
they're put them back out their neighborhood or adopted him
out. Now the total number of animal services cast Weaver
engines that we've adopted out since February.
22 is 207.
And the total number of cats and kittens adopted since we
started a program that we travel not including and
services is 254.
We use mostly caps Cameron. Once this takes to so what I'm
trying to branch out so it's not always the same rescue
groups.
So the total number of caps on that we team yard from animal
sources and through our trapping sense we started and
that number 21 is 2094.
I'm going to watch for some cost and there are a fast.
So $63 in cash which includes the spay or neuter your CPA
rabies vaccines. They also get their air to ivermectin for
internal parasites and then I I always feel like that's
probably the most of them this is the only time that we have
that so I could just do the works so we do when we dream
and then deposit consul for tape arms
and then with the microchip insertion which we do in.
Now that we came out 5, 1, C 3. They're registered, I believe
the most services but also
okay someone to us. And so that's $3 charge so with the
animal services catches $66 a cat. I do feel like it's
working out really well I think I get excited because we're
seeing this cast Penske from euthanasia and like I said a
lot of are adoptable they might not do so well animal services
but I bring to my house and it time to decompress and and then
a lot of them I determine our adoptable not for all of them
so some have a lot of them have to go back.
But like we got like the other day I got. It was his second
time trapped the ladybird initiatives, Metro Park drive
and I was going to come back and then I noticed this cat was
she is so friendly, someone you know, I've been even though the
ordinance as well out of the bag when they dug them out so
you know a lot of them right now so they don't live outside
and look at life and then have somebody with that person keep
turning it back any services. So with the money, I know it's
to May this year. But it's just they want to keep bringing up.
It is causing us a lot of money we work on the grants and
donations. I'm Blair over there, she's she's awesome
she's been calling everybody on our our communication logs and
asking for donations since we started but she's doing that
this week and people are donating we also just got a new
volunteer that way. But it's it does cost a lot and
I know what was going to County. I was looking at some
statistics security they get their share of unsafe funding
towards team er. And one of our him is being funded through
power lines which is one percent of their budget.
According to commissioner on Mueller so what will be
interesting to me is if we could somehow get data from
animal services like how much are we how much is a saving you
all by as taking these cast and that does it have visited
significantly saving you money because of the euthanasia you
don't have to do these in Asia for housing, the caps and that
kind of thing I just think that would be interesting if we
could somehow get some kind of data showing how much money
he's saving them
and I mean that is a win-win because of saving your money
and saving the animals which Michael has. Adams knows is not
to have any testing that has so that I just want to be cool if
we get that data I don't know if that's something you wanted
to do provide us. And then just again. I know this is the this
year's budget is already done but it's something I would like
to still pursue and somehow getting some kind some kind of
funding partial funding to help this program only we do we've
got a huge positive feedback from the community. I mean also
the voice of the people out there that don't like the cats
and the phantom is sense.
It's unbelievable our waiting list and they begin the
referrals funeral services but now we're getting a lot of work
now and some people are calling us just for me, but for also we
just we have what we just is never stops that we just keep
going going going so we probably do 25 to 30 cats a
week that's been safe either through what we get from
Merrill services or from trapping. So so it is it is
positive and it's I know it's still drop in the bucket.
But I think we are making a difference is catching up to do
this we just started you know almost 2 years ago. But you
know, I'm excited about it and I what I said I feel like we
did get a lot of positive feedback and we are starting to
get people that are consistent contributors, financially
switched kind of cool. So. So that's in the questions.
>> Okay, thank you thank you get towards the end of this is
you know it all on here based and it's just that thank you
for getting the euro allowed to divide his perspective of it.
And it sounds like the public has been just kill
overwhelmingly receptive of this so I'm I'm I'm glad that I
was going well, and it really looking to see this grow and
John was still a pilot.
This was a pilot program Yahoo says for now so you know
looking to see it's still rolling and that's that's great
news so they can thank you for your perspective also yeah.
Okay, so the site for the beach or their new business.
>> Next topic is a change on the animal services
administrative code. The change is to a 32 top 5 top 5. It is a
simple administrative change it is adding a requirement
for a one-hour training for code enforcement officers which
would be the animal control officers. It's a Department of
children and family training so that's that said we're just
looking for you all to approve it so we can take it to the
Board of County commissioners.
It was the 1st quarter here close to the statue change.
That is the requirement for the one hour of trading for the
animal control officers for the Department of children family
case who studied okay, I'm all in favor aye.
I think we need a lot.
>> The motion a motion.
So second second.
We get to all in favor. Kind of commission 5.5.
The minutes.
>> I'm Brea hunt filling in today for Diane. So for July
events during the month of July we promoted that safety during
the hot months, a social media post inserts 100 option bags
throughout the month to promote a different adoption specials
with reduced adoption prices than allowed approximately 210
animals to be adopted out from us.
We also hosted a volunteer orientation on July 22nd and
continue to have our furry friends a segment with CW
for August during the month of August we participated in the
nationwide event called clear the shelter we offer reduced
priced. Options with special goodie bags for doctors that
included donated food from science to it. And at the end
of the month, we have a raffle for 3 caskets and 3 dog baskets
during the is this event approximately 200 animals were
adopted from has found homes.
We've become hosting to curing patients a month we have one on
August 19th and on August 16 Wednesday and Saturday is.
I was scheduled to protect your pet vaccine clinic to the
public offering half-price for rabies vaccines and microchips
but due to the hurricane.
The clinic was postponed to the following me a total.
And as always we have are very friends that with sea diving on
the Fridays and for September.
We will have reduced to ashes for the week of September to
18th to 24th. It is a doctor less adoptable pet week.
We have scheduled 2 more. 2 other volunteer orientations
we help one yesterday on the 13th and we will have one of
the 23rd as well on Saturday. And we continue to have our
furry friends a segment with CW
RBI program continues to be a huge success with high
schoolers looking to get their bright futures hours. They have
been fostering kittens the soda added bonus we have been able
to expand our Foster program to ensure more kittens find homes
and our job problem dog program. We are looking forward
to beginning our job our program again, but this time it
has been postponed. We are working with the group to get
this program started that they have had a few issues that we
have are going to continue to work with them to get the
program up and running.
At this time, there's no start date for it.
>> Questions on the commitments, comments.
The design is great we my son in a 2 all tie, we've got the
digital sign a number of time so very thankful to the county
for spending some time on there. It's it's very
eye-catching hear your graphics department does a good job want
to get eye-catching but not so were you look at it do what you
want to get in so
appreciate you guys doing a good job on and using that that
few seconds a time well.
The next item on the agenda are the reports they would like to
come in on the court's. Good new good good comments that
comments.
I like it, I hate it. I want more information not less
information.
I will point out one thing and reports from last year to this
year.
Last year, although we still have a month ago, but last year
the total animals where is that we took in for dogs and cats
was 5,823.
And we're down 5,060, you know some of the guests that will
probably be a couple 100 more.
>> Ice could look and wonder why why are we down him,
I'm going to tribute to that we have gone back to appointments
for and usher Enders used to be that we are open door at the
minute go ahead and drop them off which
good cause problems sometimes the kennels being a you know
overfilled so we we started the strategy of the appointments,
making them a few weeks out, so people didn't think about about
turning the men think about trying some other alternative
before using it seems pretty good. I would say maybe like
one in every 4. 5 will cancel their appointment because they
found an alternative. So that's been good. Yeah, people away
and you're just asking them to schedule a time to write what
they call we say you know they turned and ran we say we ask
that you try this case for this. But that will still take
a look at the next appointment is sessions that state.
That's giving us a better control on you know overload at
the shelter.
It's about like this again just a quick question so for someone
who is found in animal so they find strays you know cats they
found a whatever is they have a place to bring them immediately
and have to get strays that does not apply for the streets
is just your own personal past that you know are key. And we
do make it to exceptional. Yeah, there's always an
emergency of some sort where you have to get rid of the an
animal we will accept those who we want to turn those folks way
either.
Also how we have something brand New Orleans baby.
We have the dashboard on our website now this is for the
public use and they can go to it.
And there it is you can find that if you get to the animal
services website.
You can click on current statistics and this will pop
up.
>> So maybe a little hard to see from where you are, but
when you go go to our Web site it says current statistics
click on it
upper right hand corner, I'm sorry upper left-hand corner is
the shelter occupancy so you will see that we are exceeding
occupancy levels right now. Now we're doing a lot of
creative things because we have more animals than we have
space.
So I want to thank Albert and his team and really the whole
team, the management team for coming up with some creative
ways that we are able to remain a no-kill shelter. At least
when it comes to space we have not had to euthanize an animal
due to space. Since 2016 now work for trying to maintain
that but you will see that we're way above capacity.
The second one is the intakes for says the multiple ways that
animals outbound from our facility. So that's Foster's
returned to owners. Adoptions of course TN be ours and there.
And then the next one is animal surgeries. And doctor Morris
and her team have done an incredible job doing all types
of surgeries. Now we have an x-ray machines so doing all
types of x-rays and a couple pencils and a couple cleft
palates one ended up in my house, how. So
that's a special needs dog that really a special on the right
bottom is the officer field calls so Lauren and the officer
team you can see at a very busy month last month in August.
Exceeded all of the previous months. So I'm not sure what
happened in that month. But our team was
incredibly incredibly busy and actually a couple officer
positions down so thank you Lauren and your team.
The next one is tnd are. So even though we're seeing a
did it there that's because the number of cats that are coming
in this kind of did a cabin iand
Carroll talked about that yesterday about why is that
kind of going down a little bit that is the number of cats are
coming in which is good so there's not as many cats being
trapped there for them that's why wind down a little bit and
then at the top you can clearly wreath that so
is that the nbr number also include those that don't go
through and what services.
>> No no this is the only issue just as animals, the animal
services statistics. As the commissioners also wanted to
see some statistics from each department and division.
So this was
how way to provide them kind of a snapshot of what's going on
in our division.
>> Allan Pickett also indicate that there's not a mini baby
cats been born to this not as many cats that was one of the
goals from the program is to reduce true relationship.
>> So on the Lauren if you can click and I know it's hard
because it's on the screen that's not even part of your
screen.
But on the corner, there's a little place that you can pull
it over he ought to worry about this is kind of hard trying to
do that. When you when you. Home, it has an air so you see
there so as a narrative of what each one of those are and what
it means.
So we can add some language about the kids.
>> Very clear nothing deal in didn't go too busy donut and a
decrease in color to think that so
well well done and design work out.
We do have a ship in the other questions.
So any none agenda items that need to be.
>> Yes, we have to buy non agenda, public speakers
requests. The first one is Katrina shadix
discuss with the board about prohibiting stairs and steel
traps.
>> Thank you could use that instead of the evidence and the
goat trail Geneva Florida, 3, 2, 7, 3, 2,
This is so and sometimes turn the commissioner meeting.
This.
It pushed a button.
That seems to me.
>> This is what I use my 25 year-old son or anything with
technology.
Working.
>> And he did in my name again or get their name and just
okay. I mean if you look on the screen that is a picture of an
alligator that from contacting me a couple weeks ago she was
canoeing sound this alligator sending the picture and you
become adept at the scene made a post asking if anyone could
catch his alligator and help them. You can tell he's top
part of his face has been cut off all the way to his eyeballs
this actually I don't know how but it made people magazine
Newsweek magazine and have international coverage and
that's the time I think so
if you notice how strained across it was kind of this was
in the jacket and tie injury a lot of times alligators were
going to fight with each other in the refuge, other spaces all
this was very clean cut across the things and something is you
re Hatters and rescuers think that it was caused by a snare
and with the snares to its and wire cable. And when Alexander
when any animal gets caught in it the more they knew the
Tiger, it gets. We had a barrier in Longwood that got
caught in a snare the stairs were put out for kind of a
tease. The H.O.A. some people who pay and that the
contractors to trap communities that they use the wire snares
and every other animal gets caught in those including our
cats and dogs and when the trapper finds the cats and dogs
in the snares they killer cats and dogs and bury them and then
blame it on the Coyote it's a horrible horrible problem,
and we think that it doesn't affect does, but that you don't
want to see them there and along with that was almost
decapitated vice mayor.
This killer, a gopher tortoise I actually have into lawsuit
against the fwc to ban these but if we could do something at
the local level to ban the use of the snare traps and still
trapped in Seminole sense now we have very well documented
animals that there along with in this alligator that made
international news is being.
Formally named in and killed by seniors. I think it would send
a strong message to the fwc I'm just like we did a bear on to
ban.
Counties pass these ordinances of the local level and that's a
strong message to the state agency. But have good news
about that alligator as I was sitting there 5 minutes ago the
alligator. Trapper called or sent me a message and they just
caught the alligator and they have him and care right now
he's resting so whatever can be done they're going it's going
to be done so that's a really really do this because they
weren't able to catch this little guy for 2 weeks and as
you can imagine even probably starve to death without having
you know the top part of space. But other than that I just want
to thank everyone in Seminole County animal services says
this is really a top notch organization they do such good
work and that had around town orientation. And when I would
join taisha and another docking animal that they didn't need
but was everybody ran and she was wrongly so she went home
with me. But this is a very good, especially compared to
other states and counties Seminole County really has a
great system and with the Allen and not being at the head of
that really really appreciate all the work that everyone here
is doing especially on a Brandon Blake case so you can
get out.
Tran have a question for you.
>> Just because I'm not really up on the the traps but I
thought steel traps worry outlawed in Florida is that.
>> Green point they were outlawed in throughout the
1970's by the fwc get a special exception permits to anyone
that asks to use them.
So they're actually breaking their own loss and that's a
point that's from up in the lawsuit and I've had plenty of
I just have a lot of meetings with the top brass at ABC and I
told them I don't want to see you know because we can work so
well together but you've got to get rid of these things and the
executive director says we hate them we're working with other
states to get them banned, but it's been 6 years. So walking
me on this. So I told them that they are banned by the end of
the year, I will drop the lawsuit. They did just recently
and create a trap tag which is that confirm assistance group
to organize have our first meeting at the end of September
to try to get guidance to the fwc to finally banned the
straps and nobody wants but they're still getting people
use
anything that we can do to bring awareness to the fact
that he's in 2 ways here in Seminole County where hiring
Coyote trappers they're killing our cats and dogs and
everything else either indiscriminate killing devices
and it's a pretty horrific to you know get strangled within
one K or thanks for asking.
Public speaker and that's great.
With just 9 years.
>> Thank you for time, I just want to bring I have seen a
couple of Park signs. But with Seminole County displayed about
water walking dogs for good with how its rendition of take
a picture being careful to walk your dogs on the hot pavement.
It's
how goes anyway, it's too hot for their paws to touch.
The pavement is too high for them to walk something to that
effect.
So my thing is and I would be willing to pay for it to get at
other signs put out
regarding rocking your dogs in the Heat. Period, you know like
90 degrees or more because the especially I've seen people
walk their dogs at noon and 1 o'clock at night. Heat of the
day.
I had to stop and mention to them about the atrocities what
could happen to their dogs if they continue. And even might
fit Mary and
had to rescue a few dogs in the Dayton area and don't even put
signs in the air offices about it, it's just beyond my
comprehension that the dogs cannot
walk and 3 in this heat, they have like heat stroke,
nevermind they're positive to heat so is there any way we can
develop the sign.
All with the Seminole County graphics to come up with that
and like I said I'd be willing to pay for I just wanted to
bring that up to I think it's important I taking people into
and their dogs him
and and the people added to their home so that they didn't
have to walk the dogs any further. You know fortunately,
nothing that is you know.
I just feel really strong about that as well so thank you for
considering that but you know John thank you thank you.
>> No we have no further comment there or what led to
that coming from when it comes to me.
Okay, so our next meeting is December 14th world still one
photo that.
Still with that.
>> I make a motion to adjourn have not yet please check.
Squeeze in there. Just want to say oust terms air base term is
actually ending in January.
What I'm looking for is for those that are so interested
and continuing on with the commissioners meeting appointed
just a Sandinista email weather now that she's still interested
Andrew for that on to the commissioners, let them know
because they have to re appoint 3 points yes.
Well, you're not sure.
>> We want to hear your question no that you are you
are it's a little weird. It's yeah. As I said to be a
point of land.
And if you if you would like to get up to those who are absent
sure.
It was before
that was it the h*** of a thing for me.
So I think it was during the second all in favor aye
related.